Post-op update and pictures


Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , May 20,2001,17:00   Archive
I'm am now 33 days post-op from my recent upper limited myectomy. Also had upper tear duct cauterization and ptosis repair and brow lift. Cosmetic work was done to re-distribute fat cells where there were deficits from muscle removal. The ptosis repair involved tightening the levator muscle and getting rid of excess skin on my upper lids.

I am still having lots of swelling that improves through the day. I wake up most mornings with my lids almost swollen shut. The bruising is gone along with the itching. I still have lots and lots of tearing which blurs my vision. I use drops through the day and eye ointment at night. I also put vitamin E oil and Moisture Eyes Pm eye oint around my lids at night. I have redness at the corners of my eyes, I believe, due to the tearing and me wiping away tears. It is still difficult to get my eyes open and to stay open. I am not having squeezing from my upper lids. I do feel squeezing from my forehead and also lower lids. I plan to get Botox this coming Wednesday. I will not be getting it in the areas where muscle was removed so I no longer have to worry about ptosis.

The pictures are self explanatory. They were taken in the afternoon when the swelling had decreased. You can see the redness on the upper lids and at the corners of the eyes and also the swelling closer to my brows is more noticeable than the swelling of my lids.

I believe that I have had a little more of a problem with swelling than most do but that also will eventually resolve itself.

Shirley in AR.where we got a few drops of rain. Just enough to make the humidity go up.

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Re : Post-op update and pictures --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Kelly Saffell , May 21,2001,08:24 Top of Thread Archive
Thanks so much for sharing your experience with us. It's amazing that we are able to do that with people we've never met miles away via new technology. I have enjoyed watching your progress and pray daily that this will be the beginning of better times for you.

Kelly in Dallas, where I woke up to a wet ground!




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Re : Post-op update and pictures --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), May 21,2001,08:37 Top of Thread Archive
Really appreciate you sharing your photographs with us Shirley. It is especially going to help those that might be considering surgery. Please continue to improve each day - hugs.

June in Toronto, where today is 10 degrees cooler than yesterday




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Re : Post-op update and pictures --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Joanne Matuzas , May 21,2001,11:20 Top of Thread Archive
Thanks, Shirley. The close up is a pretty good photo and am very glad to hear you are not having squeezing in upper eyelids. Once you have
these injections Wed. and the swelling continues to decrease, hopefully,
you'll notice a substantial difference and will be better able to keep
your eyes open. I know you'll keep us posted and I am anticipating and
praying for positive results!!! Take care. Joanne M. CA



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Re : Post-op update and pictures --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , May 21,2001,14:17 Top of Thread Archive
Lookin' good, Shirley! You should no longer frighten your sons with your Halloween eyes. I hope the injections aren't extra painful coming so soon after surgery. There are a couple of areas around my eyes that remain sore all the time from the injections. And I've had no surgery.

Sally in beautiful North Idaho where it is warming up to about 80 this week. I just planted three tomato plants in pots and have four more to do. My sons made a tiny little garden for me, about 6'x4', and I have four zucchini plants to put in and will get some lettuce and bush beans. It might be an exercise in futility as our"Kelly" dog will quite likely think it is his very own custom-made wallering in the dirt and mud space! But I'll try.




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Re:Thanks for the positive reinforcement

Re : Re: Post-op update and pictures --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , May 21,2001,17:09 Top of Thread Archive
Thanks everybody for the positive thoughts. I do hope that people will learn a little from the pictures.
Sally, I don't believe that I ever frightened my sons, I wish that I could at times, but somebody always starts laughing and then it is blown.. Scott just didn't want to look at my face when it was all bruised.
I wouldn't think that the injections would be much more painful. For one thing my forehead is pretty numb so I doubt that those will hurt. I won't be getting any in my upper lids as there is no muscle there to inject. (so no more ptosis-Yippee) The lower lid injections have never been very painful, so unless he gets to close to the surgery site, I don't expect it to be a problem. I'll be sure and let everyone know. Virginia has had injections since her myectomy and they have not been painful unless she told be a little fib. How bout it Virginia? Tell the group about your post op injections.

Shirley in AR. where her seeds are starting to sprout.
Sam, my collie, prefers squash. He actually dug up some yams once that we had planted. He thought that they were delicious. We didn't get a chance to find out.




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Post surgery botox injections

Re : Re:Thanks for the positive reinforcement --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Virginia , May 21,2001,18:44 Top of Thread Archive
No fibbing, not even a little. I've had botox twice since my upper myectomy, six and a half months ago. Dr. Patrinely uses teflon-coated 32-gauge needles(which he special orders from somewhere in Florida) and it was virtually painless. He even commented to my husband about it - "She's not even flinching." I'll have to admit that they never have bothered me and I've had injections from three different doctors. I really think plastic surgeons have the best technique, since (as Dr. A pointed out at the conference) paying customers (those getting injections for cosmetic reasons) complain more than we do and the doctors have more at stake in getting it right. Both plastic surgeons that have given me injections were a little vain about it - they both told me in advance that their injections didn't hurt. In my case they were right. (Just to set the record straight, I wouldn't be going to a plastic surgeon if I hadn't needed the myectomy - they don't know much about treating the other stuff, which is what I need now.)

The last set of injections were between my eyebrows, at the outer edges of my eyes, and on the inside edge of the lower lid - 17 injections in all with a total of 65 units of botox. That was 3 weeks ago and these have been the best in years.

I probably won't be driving the long trip back to Dr. Patrinely next time, so we'll see how the neuro-op does. Maybe the difference in 700 miles and 200 miles will compensate if there is any discomfort.

Virginia in AL, eating lettuce, potatoes and (soon) squash from the backyard garden.




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Re : Post surgery botox injections --- Virginia
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , May 21,2001,19:03 Top of Thread Archive
Thanks Virginia, I didn't think that you would fib to me.
All plastic surgeons are not created equal, though. My first botox doctor was an oculo plastic surgeon who also gave botox for cosmetic reasons and for BEB. His injection technique left a lot to be desired and although he was fast, the injections were uncomfortable. Both MDS's in neurology that have given me the injections did a better and less painful job than the plastic surgeon did. What makes me sad is that I know that he sees the majority of BEB patients in AR.

I like the idea of those 32 gauge Teflon needles. I've got to ask about them.

Shirley in AR. who planted her lettuce too late but it and the other things that I planted are popping up out of the ground. I don't care if I get to eat any of it, it was fun to plant it. Virginia, I could send my collie over to dig your potatoes for you.




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Re : Re: Post surgery botox injections --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by MaryNY (Mary,MaryNY), May 21,2001,22:00 Top of Thread Archive
I had my limited myectomy two years ago. I think my surgery was a little different from Shirley's - I had bruising and pretty colors around my eyes for a few days, but not quite as intense! As for botox injections, they have been more painful in a couple of spots, for about the last year. I asked the dr. if it could be scar tissue causing this, and he wasn't really sure. He said it could also be that my skin is getting thin (glad some part of me is!) as I get older. The shots at the outside corners of my eyes are most painful-it feels like he's drilling right into the bone! I habe been using Emla cream the last two times, and maybe it helps some; I'm not really sure, I'll keep trying it, though. Whatever it takes!! Mary



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Re : Re: Post surgery botox injections --- MaryNY
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , May 22,2001,10:44 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Mary, Dr. Anderson did remove some muscle at the outer corners of my eyes and I don't intend to get any injections there. On the diagram that he drew for me, this is an area not to be injected with what I had done. Did your surgeon give you a diagram of where the injections should be placed? Dr. Anderson did your surgery, didn't he? Mine shows where the muscle was removed and there would be no reason to give the injections at that location. If someone just injects the way that they normally would, they are going to be injecting into places where there are no muscles unless all the muscle was not removed. I'm going tomorrow, armed with my diagram and planning to ask where the injections are going to be given before he starts injecting. I wish that the doctors that did the surgeries could continue to do the injections but that can't always be the case. If someone injected my upper lids at this point, I know that it would be quite painful. Some upper limited myectomies are done and all the squeezing muscles are not removed or people just have ptosis repair, etc and no muscle removed and will continue to need injections in the area where surgery was performed and I'm sure these are quite painful.

Mary, you could ask him to go a little further out toward your temple area and see if that worked as well and probably wouldn't be as painful.

Shirley in AR. who woke to a bright sunshiny and cool day.




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Posted by MaryNY (Mary,MaryNY), May 22,2001,20:32 Top of Thread Archive
Shirley - thanks for the "input". I do have a diagram from my neurologist showing where he injects the botox, but I never got one from Dr. Anderson. Sounds like it might be worth looking into. Hope you're coming along, improving. Your pictures are great - wonderful teaching tool for everyone. Mary



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Re : Post surgery botox injections --- Virginia
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , May 21,2001,23:44 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Virginia ... Glad your garden is doing well. The veggies at the corner stands in Spokane are coming from Georgia now (so the vendors say). I am proud to say that two of my sons built a tiny little 6'x3' garden for me and in it I now have four zucchini plants and three tomato plants(with five more in pots on my deck). Tomorrow I will get some bush beans and some leaf lettuce. That's about all my plot will hold. I'm planting marigolds around the edge. Mosquitoes are thick already so I don't tarry ther long in the evenings.

My master gardener aunt (85 in July) fell at a plant farm on Friday and broke her hip. She is doing okay, will be moved to rehab tomorrow for at least six weeks. What a way for a true gardener to spend the summer. I called her at the hospital to get instructions on planting.

This has nothing to do with blepharospasm, so I'll get off the line! I am just happy to be doing one little "normal" thing such as managing to not topple over while planting a squash, for goodness sake!

Sally in North Idaho




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health/gardening

Re : Re: Post surgery botox injections --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Virginia , May 22,2001,09:26 Top of Thread Archive
Sally, it may be somewhat related to BEB, even if indirectly. One of the online health sites had the following "tip":

If the great outdoors keeps calling your name, heed the call. It just may help you stay healthy.

Certain kinds of contact with the natural environment, whether it's a hike in the woods or time spent in your garden, may promote health and well-being. Researchers speculate that human beings have a natural bond
with other living organisms, and nurturing that bond may benefit health.

So, go tend that garden and eat those veggies. Can't hurt and may help.

Virginia in AL, also trying to evade the mosquitoes.




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Re: Rosacea

Re : Re: Post surgery botox injections --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Joanne Matuzas , May 24,2001,14:13 Top of Thread Archive
Kind of off the topic, Sally, but I read on a former post you have
rosacea. I also have had it for some time before my blepharospasm
and meige developed. I was wondering do you have a lot of redness
on your face? I just have certain small areas. I use metrogel and
the doctor has prescribed an antibiotic but I have not been using
it much due to new disorder. Before I was first diagnosed, the
opthamologist thought I had ocular roseacea which he thought caused
the photosensitivity and just bit of spasming I had at the time.
How do you treat yours? Was it ever suggested you might have some
ocular rosacea? Thanks for your input. If anyone else has this
condition, would appreciate your input as well. Joanne M. CA



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Posted by kathy , May 24,2001,15:34 Top of Thread Archive
there is really such a thing as ocular rosacea? Does this mean it manifests itself on the eyeball itself?



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Posted by Joanne Matuzas , May 24,2001,17:35 Top of Thread Archive
Yes, ocular rosacea is alive and well. It usually affects the tissues
around the eyeball such as the inside and outside of upper and lower
eyelids--not sure about tissue behind the eye. It can cause irritation
and excess blinking and from what the optho said, you can't necessarily
see anything. Good eyelid hygiene is really important. My nurse at the HMO who has taken a special interest in my case found several articles at the medical library for me.
Joanne M. CA



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Posted by kathy , May 25,2001,08:28 Top of Thread Archive
good grief! what next.



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Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , May 25,2001,19:57 Top of Thread Archive
Rest assured ... there will be something, Charlie Brown!

Sally in North Idaho who is always red




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Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , May 25,2001,20:08 Top of Thread Archive
Yes, Joanne, I have had rosacea for many years and the ophthalmologist that I went to forever (until my HMO refused coverage and I had to change) did think that it had an effect on my eyes, causing the photo-sensitivity and also blepharitis. With his help, I learned to control the blepharitis outbreaks by meticulous eyelid cleansing with Johnson's baby shampoo and hot packs when necessary. Since I had to change ophths, I have been to four others who all seem to know nothing. In addition, three of them have left the clinic and the fourth one had already referred me to one of them because he didn't know what was wrong with me.

I received a call from my HMO a week ago, reminding me that it is time for a diabetic eye exam. At that time, I asked if I could write and request permission to go out of network and return to the doctor who had taken care of me for 17 years before. The answer was, NO. I can't afford to pay the full cost myself, so will just wait and see what the new person to whom I am assigned has to say.

But, yes, rosacea definitly affects the eyes.

I have redness all the time, but haven't had the acne outbreaks for sometime. I did not like taking the antibiotic and am not, at this time, using a topical lotion either. A plastic surgeon whom I met two years ago when one of my sons severely burned his hand told me that I should always use Eucerin lotion when going outside. She just looked at me and said that I would be having skin cancers if I didn't. She also told my son that, particularly since he is a farmer. But he has a fair complexion that burns, rather than tans. The Eucerin does help (when I remember to use it!).

This has rambled, but I hope I've answered your questions. If not, ask again.

Sally in hot North Idaho where sun screen is definitely needed.




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Posted by Joanne Matuzas , May 26,2001,11:15 Top of Thread Archive
Thanks for the input, Sally. Joanne M. CA



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Re: Post-op update and pictures

Re : Post-op update and pictures --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Moderator-JB , May 22,2001,08:00 Top of Thread Archive
Shirley:

Looking good!

Did they shorten the Levator and what did material did they use for the sling (always want to call it Singapore Sling :)

Hang in there - eyes that are open, WHAT A CONCEPT! - @@\

Judy




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Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , May 22,2001,11:03 Top of Thread Archive
Judy, He did a ptosis repair that involved shortening or tightening the levator and getting rid of excess loose skin on my upper lids. He did not do a frontalis sling. He uses that as a last resort if the physical corrections that he makes does not improve the eyes enough to allow them to open. He says that most of the time what I had done ,takes care of the apraxia of lid opening problem or at least improves it. By removing the squeezing muscles in the upper lids and not having to get botox in this area anymore(causing more weakness of the upper lids),I should be able to open my eyes easier.

The frontalis sling has it's own set of problems with dry eyes and eyes wanting to open at night or not completely close. I still am having difficulty getting them to open and am continuing to take my Klonopin and Adderall and Benadryl. I have decreased the Benadryl dosage and Adderall dosage but have increased the Klonopin dosage to help relieve my lower lid spasms. I'll be able to tell more when the botox injections which I get tomorrow kick in and the swelling resolves.

It would be a while before I would even consider a frontalis sling. I know that they work for people and can always be removed but I agree with DR. Anderson that the upper myectomy should always be tried first.
I believe that some people have had the sling put in without having any muscle removed and to me that would be a fight that your eyes couldn't win. Talk about a tug-of-war.

Shirley in AR. who doesn't really know if her eyes are open yet or not.




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Re : Re: Post-op update and pictures --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by kathy , May 23,2001,15:52 Top of Thread Archive
i am sure that the shock of surgery takes a great deal of time to recover from, the emotional vs. the physical, you know. i'm sure you're coping a lot better than i would, ever!



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Re : Post-op update and pictures --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Alan Phair , May 22,2001,13:41 Top of Thread Archive
Shirley, the pictures look great. I can tell from your progress that in a little while, you eyes are going to be completely open. Hopefully, the spasms will be minimal or gone altogether also. Keep us posted.

I still have a little swelling myself. It is a wierd swelling though as it seems as though it is mostly the result of the plastic surgery collogen not going down. It is like I have a big tea bag under my left eye. I have not seen the relief that I had hoped especially after getting such great results from the upper one....Alan




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Re: Post-op update and pictures

Re : Re: Post-op update and pictures --- Alan Phair
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , May 22,2001,13:59 Top of Thread Archive
Thanks Alan,
It is interesting that you mentioned your swelling and that it seemed to be a result of the cosmetic workings. Most of my swelling is above my suture line where the fat was placed. The upper lids below the suture line have a little swelling but it is nothing like what I have on the sides and brows and above the suture line. It may take longer for this to go down versus just trauma from where the muscle was removed. Either way, it certainly is an ongoing bother especially with the tearing which causes the vision to blur. Did you have much tearing with your upper myectomy? Or do real men not cry? ;-)


Shirley in AR. Typing through tears dripping on the keyboard. I'll probably have to buy a new keyboard.




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Posted by Alan Phair , May 23,2001,17:16 Top of Thread Archive
Shirley, I did not have any tearing after the Myectomies. And yes, real men do cry. When I was working, I always felt uncomfortable having to give a speach when one of my employees retired of left the Company as I invariably would break into tears talking about the relationship I had with them in the work environment. I was never ashamed of it. Many people would comment that they could tell that my words came from the heart when they saw the tears. Occasionally i would get the idiot who would think I manufactured the tears but I just fired them when I had the chance. (only kidding)...Alan



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Re: Tearing after surgery

Re : Re: Post-op update and pictures --- Alan Phair
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , May 25,2001,11:50 Top of Thread Archive
Hey Alan,
I wonder why some of us have the tearing and some don't? I think that Cynthia had a problem with this and Virginia to a lesser degree.(And we are not even going to talk about Virginia's "degrees").
When I am up, sitting or standing or walking, I've got tears streaming down my face. That is what is causing my blurred vision. Not fair that you missed out on this part. :-( Only kidding,I'm glad that you didn't have a problem with it.
I can just see you at those retirement parties. I could have guessed that it would get to you. There should be more kind-hearted and sensitive men. Nothing wrong with that. And the idiots need to be fired.
Hope your pin removal from your heel went well. Orthopedics is so much fun. :-)

Shirley in AR.




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Posted by Virginia , May 25,2001,17:22 Top of Thread Archive
I don't remember having a problem with tearing. Am I repressing bad memories? My blurred vision was caused by one eye drying out overnight because it didn't close completely. That's not a problem anymore, except that the other one didn't close completely after the last botox. I just use ointment and wear my mask to sleep and don't worry about it.

Virginia in AL (there's still one I don't think I've mentioned - I'm a certified, card carrying member of the National Council of State Garden Clubs Landscape Design Critics Council, for what that's worth, which is not much (one of my "lesser degrees"). It got me sentenced to 3 miserable years on the city Beautification Board, which I am happy to say are over. I still do judging, which I enjoy.)

--modified by Virginia at Fri, May 25, 2001, 17:23:47




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Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , May 26,2001,12:28 Top of Thread Archive
It's just my memory or lack of. I have falsely accused you of post-operative tearing when it was simpley blurred vision from eye ointments or lack of using them and letting your eye dry out. What a blunder! Now, I'm not even sure about Cynthia. I may have to be placed in a "home" somewhere.

Shirley in AR. who has a library card. My 20 year old son has two AARP cards. The other Older J.C. Barr that lives here in town probably has none. I also carry an out of date CPR instructor card.




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Re : Re: Tearing after surgery --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , May 26,2001,17:14 Top of Thread Archive
First Lady Laura Bush recently told a gathering of important persons that her library card is the most important possession in her purse/handbag/pocketbook (depending upon your generation!). I agree wholeheartedly with her. You are right up there at the top, Shirley, in important documents.

Tag along with your son as his "significant other" and get the senior discounts allowed him.

Sally in North Idaho ... hot and breezy today.




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Re:Important documents and cards

Re : Re: Tearing after surgery --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , May 26,2001,18:37 Top of Thread Archive
Sally, the sad truth is that when I went in to get my audio books from the library they had to "update" my card as I hadn't used it in awhile )like, years).
I'd be happy to tag along with my son and his misallocated cards that he will not throw away but he has no job and I would be paying and at 20 he doesn't even look close to 50. He seems to think that they might come in handy sometime. It's beyond me. Somewhere, I went wrong, even though I have all my expired PTA cards, too. "-0

Shirley in AR. who has the bah-humbugs today.




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Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , May 27,2001,16:21 Top of Thread Archive
Shirley, we'll just hope he doesn't successfully use the cards for ID at a night club. With all the marvels of plastic surgery and cosmetic Botox these days, he just might pass as a young 50.

Hope your bah-humbugs are better. I kind of feel the same way.

Sally in North Idaho




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Re : Post-op update and pictures --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Carol Arp , May 22,2001,13:50 Top of Thread Archive
Thanks for the updates. Your sharing helps so many of us who face this in the future. I think you are beautiful.



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Re : Re: Post-op update and pictures --- Carol Arp
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , May 22,2001,14:12 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Carol, You are too kind. I think I better post some of the really bad pictures or my head is going to swell up.

I seriously do hope that it is helpful for some. I also want people to know, if at some point they elect to have this done, that they need to know exactly what is going to be done and what to expect from the results of the surgery and to find the best surgeon that they can to do the work. I remember at the conference last August that someone asked Dr. Anderson how long they might expect to be off work if they had an upper myectomy and he replied about 1 to 2 weeks. I would beg to differ in my case. It has been 5 weeks now since my surgery. I'm sure everyone is different and others might not have had the apraxia problem or only had to have minimal work done, but I'm still having a lot of swelling and blurred vision. I guess that it might be different if someone was still able to work before the surgery and had it done and I have been unable to work for two years now and still couldn't.
Everybody is different and I know that we can all relate to that.

Shirley in AR.




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Re : Re: Post-op update and pictures --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Virginia , May 22,2001,16:40 Top of Thread Archive
Shirley,
I was back driving less than three weeks after my upper myectomy. You're right - we have individualized conditions, individualized operations, and individualized recovery times. Thank goodness I didn't have to be concerned about going back to work, though.

Virginia in AL




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Re : Re: Post-op update and pictures --- Virginia
Posted by kathy , May 23,2001,16:00 Top of Thread Archive
Shirley, what kind of nursing did you do?



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Re: Nursing jobs

Re : Re: Post-op update and pictures --- kathy
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , May 25,2001,11:12 Top of Thread Archive
Kathy,
I've been in nursing since the early 70's. I've done general hospital work, Rehab nursing, pharmaceutical sales, worked in doctor's office, surgical nurse for an ENT doctor and lastly as a school nurse. The school nursing fit with having my own kids as I had the same hours and days as they did so could be a mom and have a job at the same time. I enjoyed working in doctor's offices the most and learned the most in that setting and surgery. In some ways I miss it, but nursing has changed so much that I do not envy my friends that are still dealing with the lack of proper staffing and the implications of all the down-sizing.

Shirley in AR.




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Posted by kathy , May 29,2001,10:57 Top of Thread Archive
wow, no wonder you know so much about a variety of things. My daughter ,who graduated from nursing school last year, has gotten a job as a school nurse this autumn. She is excited because it will combine both her teaching and nursing backgrounds. (this is about it for my eyes on the computer this morning!)



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Posted by kathy , May 23,2001,15:58 Top of Thread Archive
i was always told it was a 2 to 7 month recovery period and i can certainly see why.



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Posted by kathy , May 23,2001,15:56 Top of Thread Archive
Shirley, i think you are, too! through even the obvious trauma, bruising and pain! What a wuss i would be.



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Posted by kathy , May 23,2001,15:33 Top of Thread Archive
i think your eyes look pretty great, so far!

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