eyelid lift/taping


Posted by Jaelline Jaffe , Dec 14,2001,05:34   Archive
I had originally scheduled eyelid surgery recommended by my doc for the week before the conference but cancelled b/c I wanted more input. At the conference, I asked a number of doctors about it. Most of them seemed to think this would only be cosmetic.

Then one day, a few weeks before my next botox (when I was pulling on my poor stretched eyelid to keep it open to watch TV), I got a bandaid and taped up each lid. Looked really STOOOOPID. But it actually worked - I didn't hold the lid up with my fingers for an entire hour show. I had been very skeptical of doing eyelid surgery before, b/c I figured I'd wreck the stitches by pulling on the lid to keep it open - but what I discovered was that if it was open, I didn't need to hold it.

So I just went back for botox last week and told him about that, and he showed me a new diagram on the computer that depicted the tendon that runs down the center of the eyelid. He took a kleenex and tore little holes in it and demonstrated how it got more and more stretched til it shredded. He said I need a re-insertion of the tendon (I guess he's saying I have apraxia of eyelid opening). So now I think I understand that this will, in fact, help keep the eyes open and not just remove the loose skin. Wish I'd gotten that notion in August, cuz now I have to wait til next summer to do the surgery.

Meanwhile, Shel bought me some clear Johnson & Johnson tape and last night I saw a counseling client with my eyes taped open (I tried the Joan Rivers Asian look with tape at the end of the brows, but then settled on the Bette Davis look, with raised arches). I actually kept my eyes open for the full hour, again without using my fingers. I'll have to see how that goes when botox gets worn out - right now it's pretty fresh.

Anyone else tried taping lids or doing an eyelid lift?




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Re : eyelid lift/taping --- Jaelline Jaffe
Posted by kathy , Dec 14,2001,06:02 Top of Thread Archive
jaelline, no, but i think i might try doing that with my left eye. is the surgery called blepharasty? your descriptions are hilarious!! i wonder what type of look i should go for. your doctor's explanation of what happens to the eyelid is good and esy to understand. how long have you been having your injections?
i can't feel any tendons in my eyelids.
what about blinking? can you blink with the tape on?

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Posted by Kelly Saffell , Dec 14,2001,09:21 Top of Thread Archive
Someone just told me the other day (after the judge threatened my drivers license at my SSD hearing) that she saw an infomercial for eyelift tape. It is invisible and used cosmetically but she wondered if it would help me while driving. I know I could only use it short term because of the dryness caused from not blinking but a 3 mile trip to my daughters preschool and back is all I am looking for. Has anyone used tape for driving and does it help?

Kelly in Dallas




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Re : Re: eyelid lift/taping --- Kelly Saffell
Posted by Ann Doyle , Dec 15,2001,05:33 Top of Thread Archive
I use tear drops and sometimes I just drag the lower lid over the eye. It works for me.
I put the tape streight across holding the eyebrow up high. The I use a piece of tape verticallly to hole that eyebrow up. Ann Doyle



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Posted by Priscilla R , Dec 14,2001,16:33 Top of Thread Archive
Jaelline,
When I was first diagnosed with beb I wld tape up my eyes. Then It was only my right eye. Now I don't tape either one and I'm glad. I had my hairdresser cut my hair and give me bangs to cover up the tape.
Everyone at work knew that I was doing it and they understood.
Priscilla R -Dallas



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Posted by kathy , Dec 14,2001,17:25 Top of Thread Archive
tonight i have the look of 3M micropore surgitape jauntily and diaganally applied from my left upper lid to the temple. this has finally calmed my constantly squeezing and blinking eye today, thanks for the tip. boy am i tired! let's hope this works some more!

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Posted by Rita Molnar , Dec 14,2001,19:54 Top of Thread Archive
Jaelline....Yes, out of desparation before I had a diagnosis, and I didn't know what was wrong with me, I taped my eyes open when I drove. One of my many theories at the time was maybe I had excess skin on my upper lids, and that made them so heavy that I couldn't keep my eyes open. I would use small, flesh colored pieces of tape cut from a band-aid. I applied the tape on the flesh ABOVE my lids, and extended it over the brow and taped it onto the skin there. (I guess that's the Joan Rivers look, right?) Funny, but it did work, and quite well. The problem was, it was ok while I was in the car, but close up I looked a little weird, so it wasn't a satisfactory long term solution for me.

For some reason the taping "calmed" my face, and the pulling would actually stop, and I could relax the muscles. Also, I was still able to blink. I could have gone on forever that way, except for looking weird.

Anyway, since the Botox, things are much better. I have 60 to 75 good days out of every three months, and my eyes are ok while I'm driving during that time. But I always do carry a roll of scotch tape in the car in case I need it in an emergency. It's either that, or find my way home with one hand on the wheel and the other holding my eyelid open should my eyes begin to close.

But the idea of an eyelid lift the way your doctor described it sounds very interesting...Does that type of surgery have a particular name so I can discuss this with my doctor as a possibility?

I'm really interested to hear what others have to say about this.




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Posted by Christine Grainger , Dec 15,2001,02:52 Top of Thread Archive
I have just tried sellotape [scotch tape] for an hour and it is marvellous. There is real relief. I even watched a tv programme without pain. [My husband just can't understand this thing at all.] It does look stupid, but to have a break from pressure etc is wonderful. Isn't there some kind of tape that could be used that doesn't look so ugly. I can blink easily.I haven't read the board for a few weeks as we have just moved cities. This was the first message I read tonight. Hope I haven't missed any other good tips. Thanks.
Christine Grainger



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Posted by Ann Doyle , Dec 15,2001,05:08 Top of Thread Archive
I've been using scotch tape but had planned today to look at the drugstore for something that worked better. Thanks for the suggestion. Also must talk to my Doctor next time. Ann Doyle



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Posted by Ann Doyle , Dec 15,2001,08:09 Top of Thread Archive
Just found some hot colored bandaids. Why hide it? Look at me folks, I've got a boo boo. Ann Doyle

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Posted by Roy Pillard , Dec 15,2001,08:43 Top of Thread Archive
Fantastic !!!!! I'm not the only one using tape (clear surgical).I too thought it looked stoooopid but I decided that I didn't care how it looked as long as I could see without one finger holding one eye open. I am getting botox every 2mos since April 2001 but I'm not getting much relief. My Doc said the tape was O.K. He is still trying to get my dosage and placement right so maybe I'll realize more from the botox soon, but in the meantime Thank God for Johnson&Johnson and their clear tape. Keep those lids up. Roy in Weston,Texas



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Posted by kathy , Dec 16,2001,06:56 Top of Thread Archive
the heavy rain we had stopped yesterday and my eyes got better. but so many of you are using the tape trick. i looked for the clear tape and couldn't find it at the supermarket. i would think a drugstore would carry it? i am certainly going to try this again. Jaelline , is the surgery called a blepharasty? i know several of you on this bb have had one, from what i've heard they don't last forever ?? please reply.



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Posted by Christel-California , Dec 16,2001,12:56 Top of Thread Archive
It's called blepharoplasty, I believe.
Christel



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Posted by kathy , Dec 17,2001,05:44 Top of Thread Archive
thanks christel.



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Posted by Alan Phair , Dec 16,2001,17:45 Top of Thread Archive
Jaelline, I did not attend the last conference so I did not get to meet you but I am surprised to hear that the doctors did not recommend surgery. Obviously every case is different and I don't know yours but it sounds as though you need more than just correction of the stretching of your eyelids. I have had three Myectomies (botox has not worked for me in the past). The first one was really only cosmetic and very limited. I had that done at the Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary in Boston. It took care of the stretching but only lasted about a year as very little muscle was removed. The second and third I had done by Dr. Anderson in Salt Lake City. The first was an upper Myectomy and did wonders for me. Unfortunately, the lower one which I had a year ago was not as successful in that it did not improve things much. It did help in that the botox seems to work now so I do get some relief.

Again, I don't know your case but I would not be afraid of surgery if your doctors thought it might help. You just need to find the right doctors......Alan




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Posted by kathy , Dec 17,2001,05:47 Top of Thread Archive
it seems like an awfully lot of us have one eye worse than the other! i wonder how this can be???



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