Botox on "The View" again


Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Feb 07,2002,11:17   Archive
Once again Botox made one of the topics discussed on "The View" this am. Of course it was pertaining to frown lines and wrinkles. I emailed all of their "girls" immediately the below. I'll let you know if I hear anything.

Dear Barbara, (also sent to Lisa, Star, Joy and Meridith)
The View's topic on Botox this am immediately caught my attention but as I listened, I was once again disappointed in the lack of reporting and knowledge about its uses in treatment of a number of chronic medical conditions.
I have a chronic neurological condition called Benign Essential Blepharospasm which can and does render me functionally blind without the use of botox injections around my eye area. Many people suffer from this mostly unrecognized condition and some go untreated. Botox allows many people with various forms of focal dystonias (of which Blepharospasm is only one) to live their lives a little more normally.
If you have any interest in the really medically valid uses for botulinum toxin and would like to know more about it and report on why thousands of people get Botox just to be able to literally get their eyes open, you can contact me or the:
Benign Essential Blepharospasm Research Foundation
P.O. Box 12468
Beaumont, Texas 77726-2468
or email: bebrf@ih2000.net
Web Site: http://www.blepharospasm.org/
1-409-832-0788


So many more people could be helped if the medical reasons were discussed versus always hearing about Botox for wrinkles and frown lines and model/celebrities using it on their armpits to reduce perspiration so that they won't stain their gowns.
Thank you for your time and consideration in this matter.

Shirley Barr

PS-I'm sure any number of us would volunteer to come on the show with our doctors to receive the 12 or so injections around our eyes to demonstrate why we suffer through this every 2-3 months and it has nothing to do with vanity.

--modified by Shirley-Arkansas-USA at Thu, Feb 07, 2002, 11:19:04

--modified by Shirley-Arkansas-USA at Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 17:56:37




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Re: Botox on "The View" again

Re : Botox on "The View" again --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Joanne Matuzas , Feb 07,2002,13:02 Top of Thread Archive
Way to go, Shirley!! Keep us posted. Joanne M. San Diego, CA



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Re: Botox on "The View" again

Re : Botox on "The View" again --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Kelly Saffell , Feb 07,2002,14:43 Top of Thread Archive
Thanks for sticking up for "us"!
Kelly



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Re: Botox on "The View" again

Re : Botox on "The View" again --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Feb 07,2002,15:24 Top of Thread Archive
Good for you, Shirley. Oprah has not recognized us but maybe these gals will.

June in Toronto (beb/meige)




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Re: Botox on "The View" again

Re : Botox on "The View" again --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Joann Humphrey , Feb 07,2002,15:48 Top of Thread Archive
Thanks Shirley for your letter to those View gals. Let us know if you get any response.
Joann in Ark where the sun is out & snow about gone.



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Botax on CBS Evening News

Re : Re: Botox on "The View" again --- Joann Humphrey
Posted by Geri Arts , Feb 07,2002,18:24 Top of Thread Archive
I flipped the t.v dial to CBS news tonight (02/07/02) and almost flipped out. They're were touting the use of BOTAX (the magic potion, my words) for cosmetic wrinkles and general pick-me-up for young women who don't want wrinkles when they're thinking or something. When I went to the CBS web-site to find out if they cover botax for BEB and various forms of focal dystonias, there was nothing but articles on botax helping to stop heavy sweating (not yet FDA approved) and for migraine headaches (and back-aches, I think). This I don't mind, for medical reasons. But when I see these babes checking in with their plastic surgeons on their lunch, hour to the tune of $300-$800, I want to scream, "YOU DON'T GET IT!"

My sister who is literally in sheer agony for the last month can't get another appointment for botax injections, which help her, even for a short period of time. The billing department of the hospital where she goes never got her insurance company approval for Oct. and Nov. shots. That's how long she's been without.

All of us ought to sit up and take notice when stuff like this appears in the media. Sure hope one of the gals from "The View" responds. Maybe Meredith would be sensitive enough to do an expose on BEB.

Shirley, in the words of Star Jones, YOU GO, GIRL!




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Re: Botax on CBS Evening News

Re : Botax on CBS Evening News --- Geri Arts
Posted by Alan Phair , Feb 07,2002,19:08 Top of Thread Archive
I too saw the CBS Botox segment. I cringed every time they showed someone getting the injections in the eye area. It is bad enough that we have to but why would anyone get them strictly for cosmetic reasons is beyond me. I often wonder whether that little part of the bottle that does not get used by me, yet I supply. is used for someone elses cosmetic use with the Doctor making money off of it. I like to think not but who knows....Alan who also happened watch the Entertainment tonight show after CBS and saw my neighbor Joannie Laura (Alias China the former World Wrestling Champ) on the show. They tell me she was in playboy again in January not that I would have looked if I had known. She moved in last fall and I can't wait till summer to have her over at my pool for a dip. (wheh, I am sweating already).



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Re: Alan needs to take a dip in the pool!

Re : Re: Botax on CBS Evening News --- Alan Phair
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Feb 07,2002,21:07 Top of Thread Archive
Alan, is this an attempt to get me to pick on you again? Possibly you need to go take a dip in the pool this winter? Of course you didn't look at the young lady in the Playboy magazine. You're Santa, Remember?
I just hope if you invite her over for a dip in your pool that she knows how to swim because you will probably need rescuing-I'm sure that you will need "rescuing".

Shirley in Arkansas with BEB/Apraxia who is off the subject once again.




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Re: Alan needs to take a dip in the pool!

Re : Re: Alan needs to take a dip in the pool! --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by kathy , Feb 08,2002,06:57 Top of Thread Archive
lots of men like to get themselves into precarious situations and then be rescued by the supposedly sympathetic female. it's one of the main problems of our society.
i'm sure alan is not one of those men.



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Re: Alan needs to take a dip in the pool!

Re : Re: Alan needs to take a dip in the pool! --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Alan Phair , Feb 08,2002,12:49 Top of Thread Archive
Shirley, actually I have already met Joannie (China) as she threw a party for the people who built her home and the builder is my chauffeur a lot of times and a close friend so I got to go. She is really a nice person. I got autographed pictures for my nephews who just think she is the cats meow. She is 6 feet and has muscles on top of muscles. I am not into wresting but they tell me she was the number one in the business. She is now into body building and fitness. IShe doesn't have a pool and mine is the closest so it should be a fun summer.



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Re: Alan needs to take a dip in the pool!

Re : Re: Alan needs to take a dip in the pool! --- Alan Phair
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Feb 08,2002,16:47 Top of Thread Archive
We'll all be waiting to hear of your summer pool escapades. I wouldn't put it past you to enclose the pool and heat it if it isn't already so that you can use it year round.
We'll have to work out some sort of schedule for our sons and grandsons to do "lifeguard duty" on a rotating basis. And, No, our husbands cannot come.

Shirley in Arkansas with BEB/Apraxia wondering if anyone lives near Kevin Costner. I could use an eye-opening experience.




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Re: Alan needs to take a dip in the pool!

Re : Re: Alan needs to take a dip in the pool! --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Alan Phair , Feb 08,2002,18:08 Top of Thread Archive
Funny you should say that as I wanted to enclose our pool to make it year round but my wife has asthma and the chlorine in a confined area would not be good for her. Sorry I can't help you with Kevin Kosner. The only other celebrity that lives near me is John Sununu and believe me, he is no Kevin Kosner. He is a nice guy though....How about Oliver North. He is also a pretty good looking guy for his age. He leads a pretty dangerous live though and you would really have to keep your eyes open all the time with him. My wife has a crush on him ever since he hugged her and gave her a friendly kiss....Oh well.



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Re: Alan needs to take a dip in the pool!

Re : Re: Alan needs to take a dip in the pool! --- Alan Phair
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Feb 08,2002,18:59 Top of Thread Archive
Sorry, but Oliver North and John Sununu just won't do to get my eyes to really open up. You must do better than that. How bout Mel Gibson or Brad Pitt (he's a little young, though but would still be nice to look at down at the pool)?
I would suggest that you re-locate but your wife probably wouldn't go for that. We do need to think of our spouses.
I just told my son about China living in your neighborhood. He was impressed and muttered "lucky dog" and wanted to know just how well I knew you.

Shirley in Arkansas who is going to go check out the Olympic's Opening Ceremonies.




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Re: opening ceremonies and alan

Re : Re: Alan needs to take a dip in the pool! --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by kathy , Feb 09,2002,07:25 Top of Thread Archive
they were beautiful and very well done!! maybe some of those really in shape athletes could keep our eyes open for a time.only they all have such egos.



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Re: Alan needs to take a dip in the pool!/shirley

Re : Re: Alan needs to take a dip in the pool! --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by kathy , Feb 09,2002,07:21 Top of Thread Archive
say it again for me.



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Re: Alan needs to take a dip in the pool!

Re : Re: Alan needs to take a dip in the pool! --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Ann Doyle , Feb 12,2002,09:20 Top of Thread Archive
ALAN, Shirley and I are going to hold your legs and feet first lower you into to pool till we cool off however long that takes in the hot sun which is as hot as you are. Ann Doyle. Written without Shirley's permission but I'm sure she agrees. Ann



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Re: Botox used for sweating!

Re : Re: Botax on CBS Evening News --- Alan Phair
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Feb 07,2002,21:53 Top of Thread Archive
Alan, you do remember that Botox is used for sweating control, do you not? So be prepared in advance before the swimming invitation.

Sally in North Idaho

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Re: Botax on CBS Evening News

Re : Re: Botax on CBS Evening News --- Alan Phair
Posted by Billie Lowe , Feb 07,2002,22:06 Top of Thread Archive
Alan, I think if you want to impress your neighbor, you probably ought to just stay seated in your chair by the pool. Or like Shirley said, make sure she can swim.

Billie in Kansas




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Re: Botax on CBS Evening News/alan

Re : Re: Botax on CBS Evening News --- Alan Phair
Posted by kathy , Feb 08,2002,06:54 Top of Thread Archive
which leads to the question, what do they do if it is not all used up? can it be disposed of safely?



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Re: Disposal of Botox

Re : Re: Botax on CBS Evening News/alan --- kathy
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Feb 08,2002,17:01 Top of Thread Archive
Kathy, if the botox is not all used, they "waste" it by disposing of it or like Edith was saying, office staff or family members may have the option of being injected with it (probably free of charge) if they choose to have this done by the doctor. I don't have a problem with this if no charges are incurred. It's just going to be thrown away.

Needles and the unused portion of the botox are probably disposed of safely in a BioHazard Infectious Waste Container like all other needles and syringes in hospitals, labs and doctors offices. I'm not sure where these go when they are full.

Shirley in Arkansas with BEB/Apraxia




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Re: Disposal of Botox

Re : Re: Disposal of Botox --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by kathy , Feb 09,2002,07:17 Top of Thread Archive
hmmmm. interesting.



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Re: Aye A Man is a Man For all That!

Re : Re: Botax on CBS Evening News --- Alan Phair
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Feb 08,2002,07:50 Top of Thread Archive
Calm down now Alan! But maybe if and when your neighbour drops over to your place for a dip in the pool, your eyes will POP open at the sight and you will be CURED - we can hope can't we?

June in Toronto who managed to combine the topic of playboy(gal) and beb!

--modified by June in Toronto at Fri, Feb 08, 2002, 07:57:56




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Re: Botax on CBS Evening News/No, that's BOTOX

Re : Botax on CBS Evening News --- Geri Arts
Posted by Lynn Yarbrough , Feb 08,2002,01:23 Top of Thread Archive
Hey, guys, if we want to be heard as credible people and not a bunch of ignoramuses, let's at least learn to SPELL the word correctly. The word is BOTOX, as in BOtulinum TOXin, and it has nothing to do with taxes, which everybody is already up in arms about :-). If we can't do that much, who is going to listen?

Cheers,

--- Lynn




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Re: Botax on CBS Evening News/No, that's BOTOX

Re : Re: Botax on CBS Evening News/No, that's BOTOX --- Lynn Yarbrough
Posted by kathy , Feb 08,2002,07:01 Top of Thread Archive
i kinda, sorta agree with ya. it's never to late to learn.at least you are making the correction when you catch it and then the person who initially misspelled is supposed to read it and like pick up on the mistake and stuff.



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Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee

Re : Re: Botax on CBS Evening News/No, that's BOTOX --- Lynn Yarbrough
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Feb 08,2002,17:41 Top of Thread Archive
Goodness Lynn, don't mince words here-tell us how you feel about this. :-) It is good to see that you are apparently feeling better and are not having as much difficulty with typos and spelling that you were a while back when you had your TIA.

It is good to know how to spell the terms that deal with our disorder but this is one of the best places to learn how to do that. Support comes before spelling except in the dictionary.

Surely Shirley who will listen. I still wish that Virginia would be a Virtual Spellchecker. :-)




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Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee

Re : Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Virginia , Feb 08,2002,18:21 Top of Thread Archive
I knew the spellchecker thing was way beyond my capabilities when we started on the regional vocabularies and dialects. I think it's every one for themselves on the spelling.

I notice that I'm lazy about capitalizing BOTOX and wondered if that is a requirement, too. How about it Lynn?

Virginia in AL, who likes her stuff to be right, but is tolerant and patient with those who aren't so picky.




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Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee

Re : Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee --- Virginia
Posted by kathy , Feb 09,2002,07:32 Top of Thread Archive
i totaly eliminated most capitalization or it would take me at least twice as long to type anything.
gee, maybe i could relive my childhood experience of losing out on the chance of being a national finalist. i lost on the word"llama". i had never seen it in print. i mean 2 LL"S, that's sort of hard. actually i did not want to go; i think i would have passed out from fright. did anyone see "the Red Violin"?



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Re: Film: The Red Violin

Re : Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee --- kathy
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Feb 09,2002,07:52 Top of Thread Archive
Yes, Kathy, I saw that film twice - wonderful wasn't it?

June in Toronto - I also saw "Lord of The Rings" film recently and thought the monsters got sillier and sillier - could appreciate the camera work and costumes but the monsters (in my humble opinion) were ridiculous!




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Re: Film: The Red Violin

Re : Re: Film: The Red Violin --- June in Toronto
Posted by kathy , Feb 11,2002,02:15 Top of Thread Archive
i thought it was so good that i bought both it and the music which is haunting and out of this world!! i also tried to find out who wrote it and if it was based on a novel or actually somewhat historical, but had no luck there.



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Re: What's "Red Violin" about?

Re : Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee --- kathy
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Feb 09,2002,15:36 Top of Thread Archive
I've not heard of it. Is it a new movie?

Sally in North Idaho BEB/Meige




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Re: What's "Red Violin" about?

Re : Re: What's "Red Violin" about? --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Feb 09,2002,16:42 Top of Thread Archive
The movie has been out for about a year or so, Sally. Its about the making of and history of the Red Violin, and why it was so called (I won't give it away!). The violin was made hundreds of years ago and the film follows its owners until the present day. I recommend it.

June in Toronto (beb/meige) who really enjoys a good movie (couldn't see one for 2 years with beb, but now can tolerate non-flashing ones, but wish I could still read a good book!




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Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee

Re : Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee --- Virginia
Posted by Bob Campbell , Feb 09,2002,11:34 Top of Thread Archive
I just looked at the product insert and if you want to be completely correct, it should be BOTOX®



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Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee

Re : Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee --- Bob Campbell
Posted by Christel-California , Feb 09,2002,11:45 Top of Thread Archive
What are you trying to do, Bob, ruin Virginias weekend? :-)
But all kidding aside, how did you get that symbol?

Christel who is curious in Ca.




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Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee

Re : Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee --- Christel-California
Posted by Bob Campbell , Feb 09,2002,12:25 Top of Thread Archive

To get ®, enter ®

To make it as a superscript ®, enter <sup>&reg;</sup>

It is one of the extended character set which includes:

" < ¡ £ ¥ § © « ­ ¯ ± ³ µ · ¹ » ½ ¿ Á Ã Å Ç É Ë Í Ï Ñ Ó Õ × Ù Û Ý ß á ã å ç é ë í ï ñ ó õ ÷ ù û ý ÿ — ’ ” & >   ¢ ¤ ¦ ¨ ª ¬ ® ° ² ´ ¶ ¸ º ¼ ¾ À Â Ä Æ È Ê Ì Î Ð Ò Ô Ö Ø Ú Ü Þ à â ä æ è ê ì î ð ò ô ö ø ú ü þ – ‘ “ €





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Re: Clear as mud

Re : Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee --- Bob Campbell
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Feb 09,2002,18:40 Top of Thread Archive
Goodness Bob, all I can say is you really should get out more. :-)
You've been in front of that computer way too long. I'm only kidding, you know. I have copied the post and handed it over to my husband. He looked at it and at me and disappeared. I haven't heard back from him yet.
I think that I will be just as happy not knowing how to make that little symbol.

Shirley in Arkansas who knows how to make smiley faces :-)




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Re: Clear as mud

Re : Re: Clear as mud --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Bob Campbell , Feb 09,2002,19:07 Top of Thread Archive
Entering &reg; will only produce ® if you use it in a message on the bulletin board - not in a word processor. That is because it is HTML code. When you create a message, the software converts it to an HTML page so any code that you include will do the same thing as it would if you were creating a web page yourself.



Red text

Large text




green boxblue box



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Re: Clear as mud

Re : Re: Clear as mud --- Bob Campbell
Posted by Christel-California , Feb 10,2002,10:59 Top of Thread Archive
Thanks, Bob, for the explanation. Doesn't do much on an empty stomach, so think that I should have some breakfast first.

WHY DID I HAVE TO ASK

Hey, it worked!

® ® ® ® ® :-)

--modified by Christel-California at Sun, Feb 10, 2002, 11:03:04




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Re: Clear as mud

Re : Re: Clear as mud --- Christel-California
Posted by kathy , Feb 11,2002,02:22 Top of Thread Archive
i'm starting to feel sub-inferior.



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Re: Clear as mud

Re : Re: Clear as mud --- kathy
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Feb 11,2002,10:11 Top of Thread Archive
No need to Kathy unless you want me to feel inferior when you start talking art. I generally don't have a clue about what you ladies or guys are talking about when you discuss or mention artwork and artists and books. I do enjoy hearing about it, though-I just don't have anything to offer on those topics. (Many are now saying, "thank goodness").
Do no feel inferior or sub-inferior. It's not allowed!
anti-inferior hug to you

Shirley




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Re: Clear as mud

Re : Re: Clear as mud --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by kathy , Feb 12,2002,05:09 Top of Thread Archive
Sorry, it's one of my passions. Do you think i should change my stream of consciousness writing style in favor of Sally's more conformist mode?



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Re: Clear as mud

Re : Re: Clear as mud --- kathy
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Feb 13,2002,20:53 Top of Thread Archive
Kathy, don't change a thing about yourself! I want to meet you someday just as you are. Your writing style is fine, keep it up.

Sally in North Idaho who will get some sleep tonight because there is no figure skating on the Olympics.




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Re: Clear as mud/Sally

Re : Re: Clear as mud --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by kathy , Feb 14,2002,08:13 Top of Thread Archive
Sally, I'm sorry but you've permanently changed me, no just kidding. I wish i could have seen the figure skating, i think when it's well done it is just about the most beautiful and graceful thing to watch there is. it seems that i can't stay up that late. It infuriates me already about the judge's decision on the brief replay i saw.
I am also mourning Waylon Jenning's passing away yesterday.



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Re: Sad about Waylon, also

Re : Re: Clear as mud/Sally --- kathy
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Feb 14,2002,22:07 Top of Thread Archive
Kathy ... I also love Waylon's music and feel sorrow that it has come to an end. Guess all good things tend to do that.

Sally in Idaho, who must go watch the men skate now.




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Re: Sad about Waylon, also

Re : Re: Sad about Waylon, also --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Lyn Patterson , Feb 15,2002,19:20 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Sally and Kathy

Yes I too love the figure skating - saw the first session but missed the final - on too late for me. The whole Winter Olympics has been a bit of a fizzer here - they advertised it for months as the biggest event of the summer and when it comes on, it is for 2-3 hours at 9.30 at night. As I am up at about 6.00am, by 9.30 I would just rather read and go to bed. I had the impression we were going to be seeing most of it during the day etc but seems I was wrong. Also they jump around a bit - just when things get interesting, they move to another event.

Just saw in my email from CNN that the Canadians are going to get the Gold. Yes, agree sad re Waylon - I love C & W music.

Lyn in sunny Western Australia




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Re: Sad about Waylon, also

Re : Re: Sad about Waylon, also --- Lyn Patterson
Posted by Kelly Saffell , Feb 15,2002,19:55 Top of Thread Archive
I hadn't heard that Waylon passed away. My sister works for Capital Records in Nashville in the promotion department but I haven't talked to her this week. They are planning a silent auction for the Houston conference fund raiser and she is going to get a few autographed items from C&W stars she knows. Before the kids we used to get tickets and backstage passes to alot of concerts but now I just don't have the energy to go to a 10:00 concert. She was able to get my daughter backstage for a couple of Christian artists-that was definitely a hit! She thinks Aunt Heather is cool!
Kelly



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Re: Sad about Waylon, also

Re : Re: Sad about Waylon, also --- Kelly Saffell
Posted by kathy , Feb 17,2002,04:46 Top of Thread Archive
he died young from diabetes.



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Re: Sad about Waylon, also/Lyn

Re : Re: Sad about Waylon, also --- Lyn Patterson
Posted by kathy , Feb 17,2002,04:44 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Lyn. I am really glad they corrected that obvious mistake in the judging too. I am not an avid Country fan but he was among the ones i really liked, had a very unique emotive voice an a style very much his own. i cannot watch alot of tv at night like yourself. I burn out every night.



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Re: Sad about Waylon, also

Re : Re: Sad about Waylon, also --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Delaine Inman , Feb 18,2002,10:02 Top of Thread Archive
Waylon had a heart attack many years ago and started but did not finish cardiac rehab where I worked. Diabetes, heart disease and a history of chemical abuse equal complications and early death. I loved his music. Met Skooter, but never Jessie. We had several country music folks come to rehab and most did not finish. Our program was 3 hours for 13 sessions and took about 15 weeks from start to finish and most were just not able or willing to devote that much time. Sometimes we'd do a crash course but that was a poor substitute for the real thing. Our program also had the Mind/Body component which taught relaxation and stress management. Many were turned off by that unless they stuck it out and then they thought everybody should learn what they did. The place is named for Barbara Mandrell's father. We have our BEB support group meetings at the Mandrell Heart Center.



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Re: Clear as mud

Re : Re: Clear as mud --- Bob Campbell
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Feb 10,2002,11:26 Top of Thread Archive
Ok Bob, this is driving me crazy (probably your intention :-)). Ok, here goes nothing--------- BOTOX

We'll just see.

Shirley

It worked. So there! And I did it by myself (with Bob's help of course) Now, I never want to do it again!
Bob, I hope that you are happy.

--modified by Shirley-Arkansas-USA at Sun, Feb 10, 2002, 11:31:10




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Re: Christel and Shirley are SO talented!

Re : Re: Clear as mud --- Bob Campbell
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Feb 10,2002,13:27 Top of Thread Archive
Christel and Shirley, you two gals are just a couple of show-offs! I wish I were so talented. Don't think I'll even try as my eyes are wanting to shut down big time. Botox scheduled for Tuesday the 12th.

Sally in North Idaho




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Re: Christel and Shirley are SO talented!

Re : Re: Christel and Shirley are SO talented! --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Feb 10,2002,18:00 Top of Thread Archive
Sally, I wasn't going to even tax my brain to try it until I saw that Christel had done it. I knew that Virginia would know how to do it and I was fairly content with that but when I saw that Christel was showing off, well, I just couldn't let her outdo me. She was the motivating factor. Thank you Christel!

Now, maybe we can start another subject that some of us that side track easily can run with.

Sorry that you are having so much difficulty with your eyes, Sally. Good luck with your BOTOX on Tuesday. Have Pizza and make someone else pick it up.

Big hug to you,
Shirley in Arkansas who is taking the easy way out for supper and having chicken pot pies.




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Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee

Re : Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee --- Bob Campbell
Posted by Joann Humphrey , Feb 10,2002,13:41 Top of Thread Archive
Wow! Bob - That'll keep some folks busy for awhile. I'm impressed.
Joann in Ark



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Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee

Re : Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee --- Bob Campbell
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Feb 09,2002,11:49 Top of Thread Archive
OK Bob, How the h--- did you get that little capital "R" in that little circle thingy? I can live with the all capital BOTOX but I'm not sure I'm willing to go the extra mile for the registered trademark.

Always appreciate your input, Bob.

Shirley/computer ditz

Yes, Virginia, I'm sure that you know how to do this.




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Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee

Re : Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Virginia , Feb 09,2002,22:46 Top of Thread Archive
As Bob explained, the code he used is how web pages are created and since I do our Garden's web site, yes, I've had to do that. It's all explained in books on that kind of thing.

I'm with you, though, on not doing it here. I'll settle for BOTOX without the ®.

Virginia in AL, amazed that Bob went to all that trouble for us.




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Re: BOTOX <sup>&reg;</sup>

Re : Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee --- Virginia
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Feb 10,2002,11:44 Top of Thread Archive
And this is why I will never design a web page. I guess one should never say never.
I figured you could do it, Virginia. Have to keep you on your toes. I did like the way that you snuck that little symbol in there, though.

Shirley in Arkansas not at all amazed that Bob went to all that trouble for us. Or was he toying with with us?
My brain cannot learn anything else today.

I see that it doesn't work in the subject heading. Just in the message body (like Bob said).

--modified by Shirley-Arkansas-USA at Sun, Feb 10, 2002, 11:46:58




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Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee

Re : Re: We're all still practicing for the spelling bee --- Bob Campbell
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Feb 09,2002,15:41 Top of Thread Archive
My computer won't do that cute little doohickey circle R. Allergan will have to live with my ineptitude.

Actually, the spelling bees were the one time I was ever chosen first for anything in school! Sports teams ... LAST! Always.

Sally in North Idaho who was always begged to write book reports for the "star" jocks so they could pass the grade!!




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Another reason to spell correctly

Re : Re: Botax on CBS Evening News/No, that's BOTOX --- Lynn Yarbrough
Posted by Virginia , Feb 08,2002,19:21 Top of Thread Archive
Once when I was in the waiting room before getting BOTOX injections, I spoke with a woman whose husband has BEB. She had been trying to get information on the internet, but couldn't find anything. It was their first visit, he had just been diagnosed, and they had been told blepharospasm, but no one had written it down, spelled it for them, or given them literature. I had some extra cards with me and gave her one. She looked at it and said "That's why I couldn't find it on the web, I hadn't been spelling it right." Those search engines only search for what you tell it and if you spell it wrong, you won't find what you are looking for.

Virginia in AL




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Re: Botax on CBS Evening News/No, that's BOTOX (Lynn)

Re : Re: Botax on CBS Evening News/No, that's BOTOX --- Lynn Yarbrough
Posted by Billie Lowe , Feb 08,2002,20:42 Top of Thread Archive
Let me get this straight, it's BOTOX instead of Botox? I don't want to spell it wrong & get in trouble.

Billie in Kansas




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Re: Botax on CBS Evening News/No, that's BOTOX (Lynn)

Re : Re: Botax on CBS Evening News/No, that's BOTOX (Lynn) --- Billie Lowe
Posted by Lynn Yarbrough , Feb 09,2002,14:56 Top of Thread Archive
I'm not sure just how Allergan (who owns of the trademark) capitalizes it -- I capped it for emphasis -- but I'm quite certain there is no "A" in the word. My point is that if we expect anyone in the media to pay any attention to us, we must play by the rules of the langauge and spell simple words correctly. I don't care what kinds of typos, case errors, grammatical boners and so forth we pull in the BB, but when we present ourselves to the outside world we need to be intelligible, consistent, and not open to criticism on the basis that we don't know what we are talking about. TV producers need to hear about us, sort us out from the other wierd people clamoring for their attention, and like us, and they sure won't if we can't explain what we are about.

Let's just agree to use "Botox" (but NOT "Botox A" or Botox B") where appropriate, and Myobloc where appropriate, and let the issue quiet down. Please accept my apologies if I offended anyone.

--- Lynn




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Re: A very good point, Lynn

Re : Re: Botax on CBS Evening News/No, that's BOTOX (Lynn) --- Lynn Yarbrough
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Feb 09,2002,15:33 Top of Thread Archive
That is a very good point, Lynn.

As an English major, it bothers me to knowingly be incorrect. However, I've noticed that many of my well-educated friends have gone to the practice of non-capitalization, non-punctuation in their e-mails ... and that annoys me. I think that if one INTENTIONALLY develope sloppy habits in writing and speaking, that will carry over into times when it is essential to be correct and proper. Just my thoughts.

Sally in North Idaho where it is a brilliantly blue, painfully bright, beautiful day after our blizzard of Friday, which closed all area schools and even the major highway through town was closed for several hours in a 40 mile stretch. Chinook winds solved the problem in short order.




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Re : Re: A very good point, Lynn --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Billie Lowe , Feb 09,2002,21:26 Top of Thread Archive
Sally, this might be a dumb question, but what is Chinook winds? I think you mentioned them before. I live in Kansas, and we have a lot of wind here, but I don't think I've ever heard of that.
We had an ice storm last week, and when the sun came out the next day, it was beautiful.

Billie in Kansas




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Re: A very good point, Lynn (Sally)

Re : Re: A very good point, Lynn (Sally) --- Billie Lowe
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Feb 10,2002,13:29 Top of Thread Archive
It's a warm wind that blows following a cold spell, thus melting the snow. Don't you have those in Kansas?

Sally in North Idaho




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Re: A very good point, Lynn (Sally)

Re : Re: A very good point, Lynn (Sally) --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Billie Lowe , Feb 10,2002,14:28 Top of Thread Archive
Sally, we don't have as much snow here in Kansas as you do there. Our snows usually doesn't last a long time on the ground, but normally the sun just comes out & the temperature rises and the snow melts. I will check into Chinook winds to see if we have them here. Maybe God just gave them to you all in the north where you have so much snow.

Billie in Kansas




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Chinook Winds (Sally)

Re : Re: A very good point, Lynn (Sally) --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Billie Lowe , Feb 11,2002,15:15 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Sally
I looked up Chinook Winds, it is Indian for snow eater. It is a wind that comes from over the Rocky Mountains and sweeps across the foothills. It actually starts over the Pacific Ocean. It was interesting reading. Since we don't live close to the Rocky Mountains, or any other mountains for that matter, I guess the winds we get in Kansas are just winds.

Billie in Kansas




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Re: A very good point, Lynn/Sally

Re : Re: A very good point, Lynn --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by kathy , Feb 11,2002,02:27 Top of Thread Archive
Perhaps you should be the poetic weatherperson. i am sleepless in Atlanta!



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Re: Botax on CBS Evening News/No, that's BOTOX (Lynn)

Re : Re: Botax on CBS Evening News/No, that's BOTOX (Lynn) --- Lynn Yarbrough
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Feb 09,2002,18:59 Top of Thread Archive
There was only one person who used an A in Botox, Lynn. I didn't have the heart to say anything - figure the person would realise by the use of the correct spelling when we posted back. Unfortunately the wrong spelling got used in the head of every message posted back. I'm sure nobody took any offence at your correction.

Cheers

June in Toronto (beb/meige)




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Re: Botox on "The View" again

Re : Botox on "The View" again --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Nancy Williams , Feb 07,2002,18:15 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Everyone,
I have been reading the BB only a few weeks since Santa brought me my first computer. My 14 yr.old grandson is teaching me - he even had to show me how to turn it on. Anyway, my name is Nancy and I live in NE PA;as a matter of fact I am the NE PA Area Rep. for BEBRF. I am 57 yrs. old and have had Blepharospasm for about 4 yrs. I receive BOTOX injections every 3 months, AND the reason I have become so brave to jump in here is again BOTOX on THE VIEW. I was happy to read Shirley's email to all the girls on the show; I hope it does some good!!! Just wanted you to know that I also emailed Barbara Walters this am for the second time - the first time was back in Jan.
Thanks for letting me jump in.
Nancy in NE PA.



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Re:Welcome Nancy

Re : Re: Botox on "The View" again --- Nancy Williams
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Feb 07,2002,18:32 Top of Thread Archive
A big welcome to you, Nancy. Glad that you jumped in. I'm 50 and have had BEB for about 3 years now and my kids had to teach me how to use the computer. Now, I have my very own. Good for you, being the area rep. Stick around and you will find things that you can share with your group.

I've also emailed the "girls" on The View before and Oprah. I've never heard anything back. CBS just had a spot on the evening news about Allergan and Botox and cosmetic use. They did throw in that Botox is actually only approved for medical reasons at this point. Nothing said about what the medical reasons are-just what it will do to get rid of those "crows feet".
Is Allergan trying to get Botox approved for "cosmetic use"? I've missed that part everytime.
I wind up seeing half of things and hearing half.

Again welcome to our bulletin board and please jump in anytime you like. The more the merrier and the more that we all learn.

Shirley in Arkansas




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Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA

Re : Re:Welcome Nancy --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Feb 07,2002,21:58 Top of Thread Archive
Yes, Shirley, the point of the feature was that Allergan is attempting to get Botox approved by the FDA for cosmetic use. Just think how many more $$$ that will bring in for their company!

Sally in North Idaho




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Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA

Re : Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Feb 08,2002,07:54 Top of Thread Archive
I wonder if the original owner/discoverer of Botox, Dr.Scott, regrets his decision to sell out to Allergan!!!

June in Toronto




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Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA/ june

Re : Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA --- June in Toronto
Posted by kathy , Feb 09,2002,07:39 Top of Thread Archive
how did you find out that bit of history june? i wonder who they first tested it on and why??



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Re: Origins of Botox/Kathy

Re : Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA/ june --- kathy
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Feb 09,2002,07:46 Top of Thread Archive
My neuro told me, Kathy, that Dr.Scott (an American) first created and used botox for strabisus (sp?) (cross eyes) and it was very successful. Perhaps he couldn't deal with the business side of it all and Allergan took it over.

June in Toronto (beb/meige)




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Re: Origins of Botox/Kathy

Re : Re: Origins of Botox/Kathy --- June in Toronto
Posted by kathy , Feb 11,2002,02:32 Top of Thread Archive
Oh, that's right. I remember now. But (NEVER BEGIN A SENTENCE WITH "BUT") , who or how did someone discover it also worked for those with BEB??



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Re: Origins of Botox/Kathy

Re : Re: Origins of Botox/Kathy --- kathy
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Feb 11,2002,07:43 Top of Thread Archive
I would think that when the docotors found that botox worked so well for for cross-eyes (lazy eye muscles) they realised how it affected the muscles and it should also work on other muscles, i.e., eyelids (beb), neck muscles (cervical torticollis), etc.,etc. Sounds simple, but that's how my brain works!

June in Toronto




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Re: Buts and Ands

Re : Re: Origins of Botox/Kathy --- kathy
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Feb 11,2002,10:25 Top of Thread Archive
But, I have a particular fondness for beginning sentences with a "But" or an "And" even though I know that it is improper, incorrect, gramatically not kosher and just shouldn't be done. Maybe that is why I do it. Sometimes it just feels "right". And so, I will continue to do it and hope that it doesn't make our English majors cringe too badly. But, if it does cause, like, temporary eye closure in some, I will see if I can do better. ];-)

Shirley in Arkansas




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Re: Buts and Ands

Re : Re: Buts and Ands --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Virginia , Feb 11,2002,15:44 Top of Thread Archive
I checked my Associated Press Press Stylebook to see if they had a rule and did not find one. But they do start sentences with "but" in some of their explanations (no comma after but). So I guess it's okay to do it, even if the English teachers cringe.

Virginia in AL




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Re: Buts and Ands

Re : Re: Buts and Ands --- Virginia
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Feb 11,2002,18:38 Top of Thread Archive
You're killing me, Virginia! :-) I'm really glad that I'm not breaking any rules! You know that I would never intentionally do that. Do keep checking, though, to make sure. We wouldn't want to rely on just "one source". (has a familiar ring to it)
The comma thing was also bothering me-should it be there? does it sound right? When is it proper? And who really cares? :-)

Shirley in Arkansas who loves all the trouble that Virginia goes to just to keep me grinning. :-)




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Re: Buts and Ands/Shirley&Virginia

Re : Re: Buts and Ands --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Christel-California , Feb 11,2002,20:38 Top of Thread Archive
But you two keep me in stitches !!

Christel




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Re : Re: Buts and Ands --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Virginia , Feb 11,2002,23:18 Top of Thread Archive
There's a syndicated column that runs in our Sunday paper by James Kilpatrick. He often writes about grammar and punctuation. Not long ago he did an article about starting sentences with "but." His opinion is that it isn't wrong, but should be used only when it is important to the meaning of the sentence. He also did one about commas. Again, use them to make the words say what you mean them to say. So, does he count as another source?

In other words, there seem to be fewer hard and fast rules about that sort of thing. Just don't tell your fifth graders. I'm afraid their teachers wouldn't appreciate our interfering with their job.

And June, I have a problem with that "majority" rules philosophy of writing and speaking. But I do agree that the important part of it is communication, and if we understand each other, the rest will take care of itself.

Virginia in AL

--modified by Virginia at Tue, Feb 12, 2002, 16:33:34




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Re : Re: Buts and Ands --- Virginia
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Feb 12,2002,10:50 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Virginia, you and I both have a problem with that "majority" rules, but just look in the dictionary - its full of words that years ago would have been used in one way (adjective for example) and now used in another way. If the majority (and I mean vast majority) use it then it eventually gets put in the dictiontary that way. That's life.

June in Toronto who can't see toay, but hopes she made sense anyway.




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Re: Buts and Ands

Re : Re: Buts and Ands --- Virginia
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Feb 11,2002,21:39 Top of Thread Archive
The rule is that correct English language is that used by the majority! An example is the word hopefully -- I'll never get used to the way that is used. Also.....no money, no food, no..... - there isn't such a thing as NO anything (it doesn't exist), but everybody uses it that way. So, if lots of people start a sentence using But, then so be it - that will be correct.

June in Toronto who is trying to set it straight - but maybe I'm complicating matters:-)




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Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA

Re : Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Kelly Saffell , Feb 08,2002,08:07 Top of Thread Archive
While I personally don't understand someone choosing botox injections, if it helps to keep the demand for the product high then I'm all for it. Drug companies are in it to make a profit (they have to be to stay in business). I shudder to think what would happen to us all if they decided it wasn't worth it for the "few" people who really needed it and quit manufacturing botox. I used to get really angry when I would think about someone taking "our" botox to keep from getting wrinkles but if it keeps the market strong then more power to them.

Kelly in Dallas - the CPA looking at the business side of things




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Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA

Re : Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA --- Kelly Saffell
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Feb 08,2002,19:59 Top of Thread Archive
Kelly, I think you have brought up a very good point to ponder. I had not given it thought from that angle as I tend to see things from the side of the underdog, the people who are struggling to afford treatment.

You are right in that we should be grateful there is a demand for this toxin, which might also lead to further research that would benefit our needs. Thanks for thinking!

Sally in North Idaho, who had a "thank you for commenting" e-mail from the executive director of the Spokane CBS station following my letter to the station re/the Botox for frown lines feature on Dan Rather's news last night. I guess that's better than being totally ignored.




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Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA

Re : Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by kathy , Feb 09,2002,07:44 Top of Thread Archive
well now all the frown lines are around my mouth! who can smile alot with having beb??!!



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Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA

Re : Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA --- Kelly Saffell
Posted by kathy , Feb 09,2002,07:41 Top of Thread Archive
well, yes kelly, but shouldn't it also lower the cost and make it more affordable for those who really need it??



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Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA

Re : Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA --- kathy
Posted by Kelly Saffell , Feb 09,2002,09:27 Top of Thread Archive
I never said we lived a perfect world where all was fair. Just that botox is necessary for my daily life and I (ie my insurance) will pay whatever is billed. I'm simply stating that we want as many people as possible to want the product or the product may not exist! I saw a story about a boy who had a rare disorder and since it was so rare no drug companies would try to find a cure because it wasn't cost effective. I would rather pay more than be left out in the cold to suffer.



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Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA

Re : Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA --- Kelly Saffell
Posted by Joann Humphrey , Feb 09,2002,22:04 Top of Thread Archive
I've read where one or two of the septuplets in Iowa get botox, so it's used for more than wrinkles & BEB. Also it has helped some with migraine headaches.
Joann in Ark., doing well following the surgery in mid Jan. with Dr. A



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Re: BOTOX USES/JOANN

Re : Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA --- Joann Humphrey
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Feb 09,2002,23:03 Top of Thread Archive
Glad to hear you are doing well after your January surgy, Joann - keep it up until you are about 100%!

Botox is indeed used medically for a lot more than dystonia. It started out for cross eye and was very successful and is now used in stroke patients and much more (but my mind has gone blank right now as I should really be asleep). You are right about the migraines as well - research on that is looking very favourable.

Keep feeling better

June in Toronto (beb/meige)




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Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA

Re : Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA --- Joann Humphrey
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Feb 10,2002,13:32 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Joanne,

Glad to hear your recovery is progressing well.

What is Botox used for on the children? I know that at least two of them have severe medical problems, including with the eyes and other muscles.

Sally in North Idaho




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Botox in children - septuplets-Sally

Re : Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Joann Humphrey , Feb 10,2002,13:36 Top of Thread Archive
I believe it's used in the muscles in upper legs or hips. It's been a long time since I've read about them however.
Joann in Ark.



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Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA/Joann

Re : Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA --- Joann Humphrey
Posted by kathy , Feb 11,2002,02:37 Top of Thread Archive
I am so glad you are doing so well!



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Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA

Re : Re: Seeking cosmetic approval from FDA --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by kathy , Feb 09,2002,07:36 Top of Thread Archive
maybe they should offer us stock options. of course we don't want to put all our eggs in one basket!



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Re: Welcome to the BB Nancy

Re : Re: Botox on "The View" again --- Nancy Williams
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Feb 07,2002,19:56 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Nancy, welcome. You seem to be doing really well on your first-time computer. I've had beb/meige for about 7 years now and I just received my latest botox injections yesterday - am a bit black-eyed now, but that will pass.

I have e-mailed Oprah many times - you'd think she'd jump on the wagon as the Dystonia Foundation head office is in Chicago, but so far no go.

Talk to us any time. Best wishes

June in Toronto




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Re: Welcome to the BB Nancy/june

Re : Re: Welcome to the BB Nancy --- June in Toronto
Posted by kathy , Feb 08,2002,07:07 Top of Thread Archive
maybe she gets the injections herself for cosmetic purposes. that would kind of preclude her from talking about it.



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Re: Oprah/Kathy

Re : Re: Welcome to the BB Nancy/june --- kathy
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Feb 08,2002,08:00 Top of Thread Archive
Interesting thought Nancy.

June in Toronto (beb/meige)




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Re: Botox on "The View" again

Re : Re: Botox on "The View" again --- Nancy Williams
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Feb 07,2002,21:55 Top of Thread Archive
Welcome, Nancy. Glad to read that you're Johnny on the spot like Shirley. SOME DAY ... we will achieve success!

Sally in North Idaho




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Re: Botox on "The View" again

Re : Re: Botox on "The View" again --- Nancy Williams
Posted by Kelly Saffell , Feb 08,2002,07:59 Top of Thread Archive
Welcome aboard Nancy. Glad you have been able to join us! I have had beb/meige for almost 7 years now. I'm turning 33 tomorrow and have 2 daughters, Morgan 6 1/2 and Cory 4 this month. Both my girls are quite good on the computer - amazing! I just took over as the North Texas area rep in January when I decided to hold a a support group meeting on my own since we didn't have any. BEBRF asked me to take over and I gladly accepted! My first large meeting is Mar 23. I have emailed Oprah and written her many times. I sent her a cookbook last month in hopes of getting her attention. I was on the local Fox news in May discussing dystonia, botox... and was in Ladies Home Journal in April discussing the noncosmetic uses of botox. We have to just keep at it and SOMEONE will listen. I also emailed each memeber of The View.

By the way Lynn - I agree with you. We have to know how to spell this "stuff" or no one will take us seriously!

Kelly in Dallas - were the snow is almost melted and the high will be 62 today.




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Re: Botox on "The View" again

Re : Re: Botox on "The View" again --- Kelly Saffell
Posted by Evelyn , Feb 08,2002,20:08 Top of Thread Archive
Happy Birthday tomorrow, Kelly.
Evelyn



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Re: Botox on "The View" again

Re : Re: Botox on "The View" again --- Evelyn
Posted by kathy , Feb 09,2002,07:49 Top of Thread Archive
yes happy birthday, kelly. thoughtful evelyn picked up on this again. what kind of cake will you be having?



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Re: Botox on "The View" again

Re : Re: Botox on "The View" again --- kathy
Posted by Kelly Saffell , Feb 09,2002,12:17 Top of Thread Archive
Well, actually, I was awoken this morning to singing and a candle in a donut! Creative, huh? We have a sitter tonight for the first time in 3 months and are going out for steak. And I won't have to cut anyone's food or make 3 trips to the bathroom. Sounds like a winner to me! Thanks for the birthday wishes everyone!!!
Kelly



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"LETS ROLL!"

Re : Botox on "The View" again --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Geri Arts , Feb 07,2002,18:31 Top of Thread Archive
GLAD TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE RESPONDING TO SHIRLEY'S MESSAGE. MAYBE WE CAN FLOOD "THE VIEW" WITH E-MAIL. SHIRLEY, DO YOU HAVE THE ADDRESS?

I'M SO SICK OF HEARING ABOUT S-E-X ON THE SHOW THAT IT MIGHT BRING ME BACK TO VIEWERSHIP IF A TOPIC LIKE BEB WERE DISCUSSED WITH AN EXPERT.

I'M SURE THERE ARE SOME CELEBRATIES WITH THIS CONDITION. BUT, ON THE OTHER HAND, THEY PROBABLY PAY FOR THEIR OWN BOTAX INJECTIONS.




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Re: Botox on "The View", welcome Nancy,article

Re : Botox on "The View" again --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Delaine Inman , Feb 07,2002,20:18 Top of Thread Archive
Hip hip hooray and you go girl! I loved your email. I don't watch the View. I don't think it is even on here. Instead Maury or Montel which both are ridiculous now. I watch some of Today or Good Morning America and then turn on music. I've emailed the local stations everytime they do Botox and never get a response. My story still wasn't in Sunday's paper. Maybe this week it will be. I haven't heard from her since the interview. I sent her a picture of the group.
Glad Santa gave you a computer and someone wonderful to teach you how to use it. Keep on posting. I run off things from the BB and make copies and take to my support group. I'm the Middle TN area rep and just told Linda Webb I'd be the State Coordinator.
Mary Lou has evidently changed her mind and decided to print my article about support groups and has asked me to edit it down for the 3rd time so she can get it in the newsletter. So it will be just a preview of the August presentation at the conference.



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Re: Botox on "The View" again

Re : Botox on "The View" again --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Billie Lowe , Feb 07,2002,22:01 Top of Thread Archive
Good job Shirley, I hope you get some response from your e-mail.

I just got my injections yesterday. I had to go 9 weeks this time instead of the regular 8. We had a really bad ice storm last week, the dr's office was closed, so they had to re-schedule my appointment. Did you all get any ice in Arkansas? I think they said this was the worst storm as far as people losing their power that they had ever seen. We were very fortunate, we only lost ours for about 18 hours. There are still people who don't have theirs back on yet. It looked like a war zone around here with all the fallen limbs & trees. Today most of the ice is gone and it was 50 degrees. It is hard to believe.

Billie in Kansas




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Re : Re: Botox on "The View" again --- Billie Lowe
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Feb 08,2002,17:13 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Billie. We only got snow. Beautiful fluffy white snow. I believe that the southern part of Arkansas had some sleet and snow mixed but for most of AR it was just snow. We got our ice storms last winter. Two of them, with people losing their electricity for weeks. You can still see the damage done to the trees all over the state.
Losing electricity for even 18 hours can be pretty tough. I hope that people get their electricity back on quickly.
I hope that your injections help you this time.

Shirley in Arkansas with BEB/Apraxia




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Re: Botox on "The View" again/shirley

Re : Botox on "The View" again --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by kathy , Feb 08,2002,06:48 Top of Thread Archive
really, really, directly to the point, letter!!!!!



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Re: Botox on "The View" again/Shirley

Re : Botox on "The View" again --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by kathy , Feb 11,2002,18:38 Top of Thread Archive
Do you know who i think would be really good to call our dillemma to the world's attention? Peter Jennings. Either that or his friend O'Reilly. Neither one of them seems to want to beat around the bush. they both seem sincere in their newscasts and although they are men....



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