feb 18th time magazine


Posted by r coutant (R COUTANT,r coutant), Feb 14,2002,13:01   Archive

SMILE-YOU'RE ON BOTOX

page 59

third paragraph

"a decade ago the toxin,(botox), was treatment
only for spasmodic eye muscles."




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Re : feb 18th time magazine --- r coutant
Posted by Bob Gardner , Feb 14,2002,19:07 Top of Thread Archive
Here's a link for that article.

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,201972,00.html




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Re : Re: feb 18th time magazine --- Bob Gardner
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Feb 15,2002,06:37 Top of Thread Archive
Thanks for the link, Bob, it was an interesting article. I hadn't heard of the List of Things Not to Do after Botox - reprinted below:

"Most people don't bruise, but just to be sure press ice on the area afterward to constrict bruising. Then there is a list of things you shouldn't do right after you have Botox. Don't lie down for four hours after having Botox. Don't rub the area. Don't have your hair washed. Don't get a massage. Don't do yoga. Don't go to sleep for four hours. The point is, you don't want to move the Botox."

June in Toronto (beb/meige)




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Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Feb 15,2002,16:24 Top of Thread Archive
June, some of those "don'ts" were new to me also. There have been a couple of times, however, when I got so sleepy afterward, that I was sound asleep before we got out of Spokane. I don't think I could have stayed awake. I did know that one shouldn't rub the site.

Sally in sunny North Idaho where I think I can smell spring in the distance.




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A few of my favorite quotes

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Posted by Virginia , Feb 15,2002,08:41 Top of Thread Archive
I really liked the way they described how BOTOX was used by us to "tamp down the twitches." Could they have said to "keep us from being functionally blind"? Probably would have disrupted the tone of the article.

Okay, how many of you believe that "Botox doesn't hurt"?

After stating that one of the side effects was inability to close BOTOXed eyes - "There's a scenario to give Botoxers sleepless nights: they are forced to stare at the ceiling, contemplating a long life frozen in a grotesque parody of youth, and can never close their eyes to their fatal mistake of ego." Puts things in perspecive, I'm sure. I don't know about you, but my sleepless nights have very little to do with my ego.

I'm really concerned that "there are tell-tale signs that ... (someone's) face has been 'toxed. There's just a plasticky quality." One of my top concerns - NOT.

And what about the poor people who "can't put (on)eye makeup because I don't have enough space between my eyes and my brows," They get BOTOX to lift brows a millimeter.

I'm not begrudging those people their BOTOX. Heck, even Dr. A gets BOTOX to make his wife happy. It's just that everything looks so different from this side of it.

Virginia in AL - thanks, Bob, for posting the link. I know these quotes were taken out of context, but they did jump out at me and actually made me smile rather than frown - after all I can't do that with my plastic face.




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Posted by Kelly Saffell , Feb 15,2002,09:25 Top of Thread Archive
I don't have a problem with someone getting BOTOX cosmetically but it bothers me the most that Allergan is willing to spend the money to make commercials/infomercials advertising its use cosmetically but were not willing to spend the money to advertise its use medically. Many years ago I saw a commercial for Lamisil and they described its use in treating toenail fungus. I immediately knew that my dry brittle nails were toenail fungus and sought medical treatment immediately. I told my sister who had it too and she did the same. Imagine if Allergan would do the same thing, giving a number to call for more MEDICAL information. Anyway, that is my two cents.

Kelly in Dallas




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Re:Every other pill advertises

Re : Re: feb 18th time magazine/infomercials --- Kelly Saffell
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Feb 15,2002,16:30 Top of Thread Archive
It seems odd to me that Allergan doesn't advertise BOTOX for its medical purposes, considering that dozens of other medications are promoted in every popular magazine now. I get so weary of turning through magazines and finding two pages devoted to each drug being pushed, with the urging to "ask your doctor if ..... is right for you."
I realize that this advertising is keeping the cost of the magazine subscription down somewhat, but it's still irritating. I'll bet the doctors get tired of patients asking if the purple pill would cure them.

Sally in North Idaho




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Re : Re:Every other pill advertises --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Lynn Yarbrough , Feb 15,2002,18:35 Top of Thread Archive
Sally,

>It seems odd to me that Allergan doesn't advertise BOTOX for its medical purposes, considering that dozens of other medications are promoted in every popular magazine now. I get so weary of turning through magazines and finding two pages devoted to each drug being pushed, with the urging to "ask your doctor if ..... is right for you."
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It's not so odd, because the market of BEB is 1 in about 25,000 persons, which is MUCH smaller than the market for Viagra, etc. But the thing that irks me is that insurers (e.g. HMO's) are asked to cover the inflated costs of Botox to the cosmetics market, at the cost of refusing outpatient treatment to BEB patients (this was at least suggested within the last year.) It looks like we have to keep on the alert to the threat of abusive practices that affect us.

--- Lynn




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Re : Re: Re:Every other pill advertises --- Lynn Yarbrough
Posted by Kelly Saffell , Feb 15,2002,19:50 Top of Thread Archive
BOTOX isn't just used for BEB medically. It is used for all forms of dystonia, back spasms, cerebal palsy, migraines, overactive sweatglands... I would think that if you add all of these together it would be equivalent to the same number of people out there with toenail fungus or thinning hairline and they still advertise.



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Posted by Lyn Patterson , Feb 15,2002,18:57 Top of Thread Archive
Thanks for the information - that was really interesting. I don't agree with the bit that said that you need less the longer you 'do it' !!

As for the list of DON'TS - I wonder why our doctors don't tell us about them. Perhaps they don't apply to us - I can't see how lying down could affect the injections, or washing one's hair !Not that I have a chance to lie down as I have a 2hr drive to get home.

I just hope that the increased demand for the stuff doesn't put it in short supply for legitimate medical use.

Lyn in sunny Western Australia




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