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Posted by bev , Mar 10,2002,10:41   Archive
Good Morning, I just got my first set of Botox on Feb, 18th and for the first 5 days I seemed to have wonderful success. The light sensitivity was better, I was able to drive, walk and the sqeezing and blinking was really under control. Then I started noticing other things like when I started to read anything, my eyes felt like they had read for hours. The light sensitivity was great and my eyes felt really dry. Someone told me that maybe my eyes wer not closing all the way at night. I used salve at night and drops often during the day. I saw on the bulletin board someone recommended Sara wrap and salve at night. I did that and found some relief. I continue to do that. Does anyone have any comments on whether I could be making other problems for my eyes by using this every night. Yesterday I fell asleep in the P.M. for about and hour and a half and when I awoke, I definitely knew that my eyes had dried out while I was asleep. Does this get better as the Botox starts to wear off. Does anyone know anything about vitamins and drugs that make dry eyes worse or better. I feel like that if I could get my dry eyes under control I could function very well. Maybe my Botox needs to be adjusted too????? I use cold paks on my eyes sometime to make them feel better. Is this bad on dry eyes. I am new at all this and ask a lot of questions. I so much appreciate all of you that take time to answer me. Any help that you have found for dry eyes that you can share would be much appreciated. If I had done some damage to my cornea during the time I was not aware that they were drying out would this take some time to heal??? God's blessings on all of you that help me out. Talk to you again. Bev from Wisconsin.



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Re : dry eye --- bev
Posted by Joann Humphrey , Mar 10,2002,14:22 Top of Thread Archive
Saran wrap under the eye mask helped me too. It really kept the moisture in while I slept.
To me, hot washcloths feel good on my eyes. I just use them 3 times a day. Trouble is the cloths don't stay hot very long. I use the microwave to reheat them.
I'm surprised the botox helped immediately. For me it generaly takes 10 days or so. Refresh drops are the best as far as I'm concerned, & Genteal at night.
Joann in sunny Ark.



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Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 11,2002,05:48 Top of Thread Archive
Good morning to you Bev (although its a day later!). I had my botox injections over 3 weeks ago and I'm still waiting for the side effects to go before I can decide if it is working or not (we all differ so much don't we?). My ophthalmologist strongly urged me to continually use eye drops and cream at night - but the downside of the cream seems to be a build up over the years perhaps causing some of the blurriness. However the downside of not using it might be glaucoma - so I use the drops and cream 365 days/year. I understand that the eyelids do not completely close after botox injections so its very important to seal them when sleeping. I also understand this not closing doesn't last for ever, but I sill use the cream. I have a gel mask and I warm that up and it seems to comfort the eyes - sometimes I use washclothes and someone had a great idea of keeping the crock pot on with water and simply keeping washclothes in it to have them continuously warm for use. I also use a cold mask on occasion - but prefer the warm. Hope this has helped.

Best wishes.

June in Toronto (beb/meige) where we had a crazy weather weekend - warm and very mild on Saturday - gale-force winds by Saturday evening and a drop of 17 degrees by Sunday - enough already!




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Posted by Virginia , Mar 11,2002,08:01 Top of Thread Archive
Bev,
Dry eyes are a problem for me, too. I have used ointment at night and covered my eyes when sleeping for quite a while now and I don't think there's any problem with doing this. In fact, I think I would have a problem if I didn't. I had a limited myectomy in Nov. 2000, and since then, one of my eyes doesn't close completely, BOTOX or not. Like you, I notice my eyes being dry when I wake up from an "unplanned" nap. The only time I was told that I had corneal abrasions was just after my surgery and it healed pretty quickly.

I take Moistur-Eyes, an oral supplement made by Carlson Labs, and find that it does help me. It hasn't helped everyone, though. There is another supplement that some on the board are trying.

Good luck,
Virginia in AL




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Posted by Tim Johnson-PA-USA , Mar 12,2002,19:32 Top of Thread Archive
Virginia, My wife (two corneal transplants) and I (BEB/Meige) have been taking this same supplement for a few months now, and it does seem to help with some of the dry eye. Of course I also use the GenTeal Gel and drops during the day, and ointment at night. I was wondering if you take the full recommended dosage of three Moistur-Eyes capsules per day? We have been taking mostly one or two a day because of the cost. But for many years I have used other products from Carlson labs with good success. Glad to hear it is helping you. I also take Billberry, Omega-3 fish oils and had tried Lutein.
Tim in PA hoping you are not "spasming" now. Today from the moment I got up has been a bad eye, throat and breathing day. Some days it is relentless.

--modified by Tim Johnson-PA-USA at Tue, Mar 12, 2002, 19:35:18




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Re : Re: Moistur-Eyes/Dosage? --- Tim Johnson-PA-USA
Posted by Shanasy in IL , Mar 12,2002,21:35 Top of Thread Archive
HI Tim,

Even though your question wasn't directed at me, I thought I'd put my 2 cents in. When I first started Moistur-Eyes I took 2-3 a day for about a month. Then I cut back to 1 a day. If I ever feel a hint of dry eye, I just take 2 a day and it seems to do the job. This supplement has really been a miracle for me as it has wiped out my dry eye 95% (and mine used to be really bad). I never even do drops anymore - thank God! I hated that!

I too keep the dosage far below the "recommended" dosage which IS a very expensive way to go! Fortunately, it's all I need.

Good luck Tim!
Shanasy




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Re : Re: Moistur-Eyes/Dosage? --- Shanasy in IL
Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 13,2002,12:34 Top of Thread Archive
I am only taking one a day so as to determine if i have an allergic reaction to it. Also i'm concerned about getting too much vitamin D. I am not taking my regular vitamins with it as of yet. I am taking it with food. Does it bother anyone's stomach? or maybe it is just that time for me.



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Re : Re: Moistur-Eyes/Dosage? --- Kathy in Atlanta
Posted by Virginia , Mar 13,2002,15:13 Top of Thread Archive
I was concerned about getting too much Vitamin A, which is one reason I cut back to one a day. I do take a multivitamin. I take mine first thing in the morning with a light breakfast (I don't like to eat in the mornings) and don't have any stomach problems with it. But I did hate that salmon taste that stayed with me when I was taking 3 a day.




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Re : Re: Moistur-Eyes/Dosage? --- Virginia
Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 14,2002,08:58 Top of Thread Archive
Well yes, vitamins A and D are the ones that are not water soluble. if i did take my regular vitamins on top of this , I would be getting 10,ooo units of A (salmon oil doesn't additionally contain A, does it?), 600 units of D, plus another 250 iu's of vit. d in the calcium I take. I think this is too much , don't you? Maybe the moisture-eyss alone, with the addition of my B vitamins,calcium and magnesium supplement should be enough. The things that might be upsetting my stomach are the ascorbic acid, the vit. E from soy, or the zinc gluconate, I'm guessing. Maybe Delaine also knows something about these vitamin interactions, also?



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Re : Re: Moistur-Eyes/Dosage? --- Tim Johnson-PA-USA
Posted by Virginia , Mar 12,2002,22:01 Top of Thread Archive
I started out taking 3 a day and could taste salmon all the time. I cut back to 2 for a while and now take 1 a day. The nutrition shop has to order it for me and I ran out before they got more in. When I wasn't taking it, I could tell a big difference, especially first thing in the morning. I still use ointment at night, but I rarely need any in the daytime - just on windy days when I am outside a lot. I just can't make myself stay inside when it is warm and I end up paying for it sometimes. I also took Lutein with bilberry and got tired of taking so much stuff. I probably will go back on it, but felt like I was popping pills all the time, so took a break.

Virginia in AL, eyes behaving pretty well, but the breathing thing is a pain.




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Re : Re: Moistur-Eyes/Dosage? --- Virginia
Posted by salserm , Mar 13,2002,12:02 Top of Thread Archive
I WAS WONDERING WERE YOU CAN PURCHASE MOISTUR-EYE?



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Re : Re: Moistur-Eyes/Dosage? --- salserm
Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 13,2002,12:31 Top of Thread Archive
Carlson Labs. Phone # (847)255-1600. i just started taking it also. they have a catalogue of additonal nutritional supplements. These catalogues really help when you can't get out that often.



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Posted by Priscilla R , Mar 12,2002,20:39 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Bev,
I just wanted to let you know that there was a letter in Prevention
magazine about a product called Hydroeye which helped relieve someone of dry eyes. I can send you the article if you like. Some people on the BEB bought some to try it out but I don't know how they are doing. Hydroeye is a capsule which is taken twice a day. They give an 800# to call if you want to order. Let me know if you would like to see the article. I can send it to you.
Priscilla



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Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Mar 12,2002,23:35 Top of Thread Archive
Did anyone else catch the little article/answer by a doctor in the BEBRF newsletter (which I received today) suggesting that a baked potato be used on the eyes to create more fluid? Rather unique use for Idaho spuds.

Sally in North Idaho, where we rarely get a good Idaho spud ... they are grown in the southern part.




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Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 13,2002,05:06 Top of Thread Archive
Yes I read that, too, Sally - it would certainly hold its heat, although I think I'd rather use a warm washcloth!

June in Toronto - who finally managed to sleep in until 5.45 this morning - been waking up at 2 and and other ridiculous times, and hating it!




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Re : Re: dry eye/baked potato --- June in Toronto
Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 13,2002,12:39 Top of Thread Archive
that's pretty ironic for Sally. She can't get a decent potato. Is that spelled right?
June my sleep metabolism is just starting to get right. I'm also wondering about the moisture-eye. Do any of those nutrients help you sleep? Anyone?



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