DEEPRESSION


Posted by Dee in OR , Mar 18,2002,19:28   Archive
Hi Everyone,

I'm sorry if I have been in kind of a "snit" lately. I am sooo depressed and I get my feelings hurt easily and I know I hurt others too. Living here in Oregon does not help someone like me who has to deal with depression even on a sunny day! Add to that our "lovely" weather and I get almost non-functional. I feel liek EYORE! Since meds caused my TD, I refuse to take any so the VA got me a BioLight to try. Just what I need - a VERY BRIGHT light! But I would rather have that than meds so I ain't complainin'. So please forgive me if I offended any of you. It wasn't intentional.

DeEYORE in DREARY Oregon or is it DREARY DeEYORE in Oregon?




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Re : DEEPRESSION --- Dee in OR
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Mar 18,2002,22:29 Top of Thread Archive
Hey Dee, Can I come over and borrow your light or maybe we could both sit there and stare at it? Maybe we could argue a little? We agreed to do that you know. I'm sorry that you are depressed and I hope that I didn't hurt your feelings. I probably did. It's because we both speak our minds about things. But that's a good thing. I've missed you on the bb so get yourself together and come back and participate.
If it doesn't stop raining here and in Oregon, we are going to have to get a bunch of those lights and all sit around with our backs to them and have a good ole pity party with lots of chocolate. I just bought my two sons their solid milk chocolate (Dove) Easter bunnies but they would never know if we went ahead and ate them. Depression takes precedence, anyway, as far as chocolate goes.

Shirley in Arkansas with BEB/Apraxia and rain




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Re : Re: DEEPRESSION --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Mar 18,2002,22:48 Top of Thread Archive
With all this depression, colds, rain, snow, and everyone seeming discontented, perhaps it's time for a Cabin Fever Party.

We'll go to Christel's in the California desert where she would gladly buy some of our raindrops and snowflakes.

Martha Stewart made Peeps and Bunnies today, maybe I could whip up some of those yucky things for Shirley and she can leave her sons' chocolate bunnies alone. They might just as soon have tickets to the Playboy Bunnies Club in exchange, though!

Get the iced tea going, Christel, and go pick a lemon somewhere for it.

See everyone there!

Sally in North Idaho who is ready to go somewhere.




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Re:California here I come, bring the light and the chocolate

Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party??? --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Delaine Inman , Mar 18,2002,22:59 Top of Thread Archive
Count me in for some California desert sunshine and dry weather. Throw in some chocolate bunnies....solid chocolate and no white or light chocolate please. It has rained 6 inches this month and 4 or 5 were this week. I have gully washers in my yard where we had been babying a spot of newly sewn grass. All the top soil is across the drive way in the grass. Made me mad! Poor daffodils can't hold their heads up and I'm feeling pretty droopy, too. So Dee bring the light thing and we'll take turns sitting in the light and feeling pitiful until the chocolate cheers us up.



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I'll join you in So. Calif. Fun

Re : Re:California here I come, bring the light and the chocolate --- Delaine Inman
Posted by Joann Humphrey , Mar 19,2002,10:20 Top of Thread Archive
Count me in too. Chocolate & sunshine to go with our sunglasses. The rain keep me indoors, don't even feel like feeding the birds.
See you all in S. Calif.
Joann In Ark, who is still doing pretty well following the limited myectomy. Will get botox tomorrow however. My eyebrows & forehead are quite tender, so I hope the Dr. misses all those spots. Lower eyelids & upper nose will be the aim this time.



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Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party??? --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Mar 19,2002,10:02 Top of Thread Archive
I'm all for the desert. We've been totally washed out with all this rain. I believe that Dee likes the desert. If we go out at night, though, let's not have a campfire. We do need something to roast marshmallows on (or peeps :)).
My sons would gladly give up their chocolate bunnies for the Playboy Club Bunnies or maybe Alan could just bring his friend China (sp) along.
I'm so glad that Christel has volunteered her place. No need to clean Christel-you know that we won't see the dust and the stacks will just make us feel more at home.

Shirley in Arkansas on her way to the cyber DEEpression party




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Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party??? --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 21,2002,04:54 Top of Thread Archive
Do we have to compete with Chyna? Ever since i gained weight and got breasts for the first time in my life, I've been wondering how they compare. Actually they are quite uncomfortable at times and I wish I was svelte and flat chested again.



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Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party???/Shirley --- Kathy in Atlanta
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Mar 21,2002,07:56 Top of Thread Archive
We mustn't go there Kathy. :-0
It is not in the spirit of the party to get there and compare upper body measurements. Think Noah's Ark and not Championship wrestling and you'll kindof be on the right track. Maybe somewhere in between would be about right. Wear a comfortable loose fitting top and if you show up in something clingy, you'll have to sit in the Ark by yourself with only tofu to eat and carob chips. The men will bring them to you. :-)

Shirley in Arkansas beginning to wonder where this party is headed




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Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party??? --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Virginia , Mar 19,2002,10:16 Top of Thread Archive
Okay, count me in. We've had the same kind of rain as Tennessee and Arkansas. What good is 70 degree weather when it is so soggy outside? I could really use that light thing - I've forgotten what sunshine looks like. See y'all there.

Virginia in AL




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Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party??? --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Evelyn , Mar 19,2002,21:12 Top of Thread Archive
Can I come too? I'm feeling kind of down myself. Too much rain here too. On top of the rain, or maybe because of it, Gerry and another guy were both backing out at Walmart last night and had a collision. The other guy had a pickup with a heavy steel bumper, so it didn't do any damage to his vehicle, but our car got smacked in the left tail light and it dinged a good size place below the light. My back is really hurting today. I layed on my icepack for almost an hour this morning...brrrr. I have four different spots that hurt. I saw the eye surgeon today. I have an expanding scar in the middle of my eye, caused from old laser treatments and also from my macular degeneration. It has taken a little more of my vision, but he thinks my vision will hold for another ten years or so, with gradual deterioration. It rained so hard on our way home, that it was hard to see the other vehicles.
Daughter's car is broke down, she is broke (although not down) and Gerry has taken her to give her 2nd candle party tonight. When it rains it pours...in every way these days:)
Evelyn in WA where it's supposed to rain for at least another week.



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Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party??? --- Evelyn
Posted by Christel-California , Mar 19,2002,22:56 Top of Thread Archive
Evelyn, of course you can come, everybody is welcome.
Sorry about the accident, just the kind of thing one doesn't need in addition to everything else.
Well, when you are here, we will all take turns massaging your back until it's better, how's that for hospitality.

Christel in Ca. who wishes she had some of that rain.




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Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party??? --- Evelyn
Posted by Delaine Inman , Mar 19,2002,23:02 Top of Thread Archive
By all means Evelyn you and Dianne are both invited and everybody else who I couldn't remember during my memory lapse. You really need to get out of the rain for awhile and have some fun.



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Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party??? --- Evelyn
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 20,2002,04:44 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Evelyn, sorry you are having more problems - what with your back and scar tissue on the eye. You and I really need this party, so we'll meet up there and natter to our hearts content. The gals will be massaging your back and handing me lotion tissues and hot toddies, as I'm suffering from an infection again. You'll be out of the rain at least. See you there.

June in Toronto




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Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party??? --- June in Toronto
Posted by Evelyn , Mar 20,2002,23:56 Top of Thread Archive
June, Sounds good to me. Sorry you're suffering with a cold. Today I took a couple of Tylenol and stayed on my feet all afternoon cooking and baking. Then of course I had to wash all those big things that wouldn't fit in the dishwasher. I made the best cookies. Gerry found vegan chocolate chips and I substituted several things to make the cookies vegan. They turned out so well that Gerry thought I shouldn't serve them at my candle party. He said nobody would like them...just trying to save them for himself:)
My eye is so dry that the surgeon told me to use drops several times a day. Some mornings it's so dry that it hurts. Guess most of you know what that's like.
Evelyn in WA where it snowed most of the night last night and almost all day today. The roads are clear now though.



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Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 21,2002,05:04 Top of Thread Archive
Has your doctor suggested one of these eye nutritional supplements to you? My hands are so dry and wrinkled from washing those large things that are not dishwasher-fit that I am considering botox injections for my hands. Just kidding, of course.



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Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party???/Evelyn --- Kathy in Atlanta
Posted by Evelyn , Mar 21,2002,18:46 Top of Thread Archive
The only supplments he is having me take for my eye (No vision in left eye) is Icaps and Centrum Silver because of the Lutein they contain. I take so many pills that I have one of those boxes with compartments for each day of the week. I've been tired and my vision has been blurry today, even though my blood glucose level is really good.
Evelyn in WA where it's cold, but getting warmer slowly.



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Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party???/Evelyn --- Evelyn
Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 22,2002,06:07 Top of Thread Archive
You have no vision in your left eye? I am sorry. I still haven't gotten my vitamin supplements right. BUT the B vitamin I took last night is working.



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Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party???/Evelyn --- Kathy in Atlanta
Posted by Evelyn , Mar 22,2002,18:44 Top of Thread Archive
I don't take B Vitamins at night...I can't sleep if I do.
Evelyn where it's been sunny all day.



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Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party??? --- Evelyn
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 21,2002,05:42 Top of Thread Archive
Your cookies sound great, Evelyn - I've used carob chips for John (for Valentine Day cookies, cut in hearts), but haven't seen/used vegan chocolate yet. They must be very good as Gerry wants them all to himself:-)
Yes, we understand about dry eye - are you to put a lubricant in at night time as well ,and covering the eyes? Are you sure you are not getting `sympathy pains' for us now Evelyn:-):-).

June in Toronto (beb/meige)




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Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party??? --- June in Toronto
Posted by Evelyn , Mar 21,2002,18:53 Top of Thread Archive
Hi June. No, I don't use a lubricant or mask at night. The dryness was much worse right after the eye surgeries, but continues to be bothersome. I have many of the same problems with my eye as you folk do, even though I don't have BEB. So the remedies you use are also good for me in some cases.
I had never heard of vegan chocolate chips before Gerry brought them home. I had hoped he could find vegan carob chips. But these are really good.
Feel better soon.
Evelyn



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Re: Everyone is welcome/Joyce & Kathleen

Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party??? --- Evelyn
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Mar 20,2002,16:38 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Evelyn, Sorry about the new "potholes" in your road of life. Of course we need you and Judy at Christel's. You are close enought to each other for the ark to load you up.

Joyce and Kathleen need to be watching for Mrs. Noah, also. Kathleen can be feted at a "closing shop" toast and Joyce needs some boosting of spirits. See you all soon.

Sally in North Idaho where today's snow is at least SPRING snow!




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Re : Re: Everyone is welcome/Joyce & Kathleen --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Evelyn , Mar 21,2002,00:02 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Sally,
I think Spring has sprung it's spring:) I'll be ready and waiting for the Ark. Maybe I can bring some of my cookies to share, if Gerry hasn't eaten them all before I go:)
Evelyn



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Re : Re: Everyone is welcome/Joyce & Kathleen --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Pippa , Mar 22,2002,05:14 Top of Thread Archive
Spirits? Tell everyone not to worry. Mrs Noah will have the ark well supplied with spirits!......and the champagne for Kathleen! (I'll nip down to France en route for the best champagne that can be obtained.)



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Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 21,2002,04:58 Top of Thread Archive
We are really good at this aren't we.



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Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party???/Evelyn --- Kathy in Atlanta
Posted by Evelyn , Mar 21,2002,19:20 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Kathy. I'm not sure what we're good at, but I will agree with you anyway:)
Thanks everyone for letting me join in your party.
Evelyn



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Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party???/Evelyn --- Evelyn
Posted by Christel-California , Mar 21,2002,20:33 Top of Thread Archive
Evelyn, I just posted for blephros only and forgot that you are not a blephro, but I consider you one of us. We might put you in charge of all the Tofu meals.

Christel




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Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party???/Evelyn --- Evelyn
Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 22,2002,06:13 Top of Thread Archive
Good at doing the cabin fever party!And my bad dream finally went away.

--modified by Kathy in Atlanta at Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 06:14:36




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Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party??? --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 21,2002,04:46 Top of Thread Archive
Let's "see'. I could eat an entire bag of those fabulous speckled chocolate malt easter eggs and be admitted to the emergency room for chocolate overdose, when all those binders coagulate your sphincter muscles, which ACTUALLY happened to me once. Somehow I don't think I'll do that again, unlees I drink hot liquids with it. Maybe apple cider.



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Re : Re: Time for a cabin fever party??? --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 21,2002,05:11 Top of Thread Archive
Can i bring the Nutella? Some horrible person on one of those cooking shows actually suggested putting this on homeade vannilla gelato, sending me directly to the store to re- fall in love with this concoction of chocolate sauce and groundup hazlenuts.



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Wake up, Christel, here we come

Re : Re: DEEPRESSION --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Mar 19,2002,15:05 Top of Thread Archive
I alerted Christel that I'd invited everyone to her house to dee-press, so she will have to climb out of her depression and join us.

Daffodils sound lovely and jokes are always welcome. Music will be good, maybe some art work that people want to share, also. Steer the ark by here and I'll ride with you guys. I am before Washington and Oregon.

See you there.

Sally in melting North Idaho

--modified by Sally - in - Idaho at Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 15:06:36

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Re : Wake up, Christel, here we come --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Mar 19,2002,15:56 Top of Thread Archive
Lord, you don't think that she is cleaning for us, do you? I know that we would all hate to cause anyone any extra stress. Now, if we invited all the lurkers and the posters, she might have to clean!
I'll bring extra tissues (real soft ones) for those that are actually going to be depressed about Dee's DEEpression and sniffle about her state of "snittiness". We can also use them for tears of unrestrained laughter.
The daddodils (oops) daffodils are a go and I will bring a few treasured dandelions that are just starting to pop up.
Sally, after the ark comes by to pick you up make them stop off in Salt Lake and pick up Dr. Anderson. He can give us all free advice.

I must get a haircut before the ark comes.
Shirley in drizzling Arkansas




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Re : Re: Wake up, Christel, here we come --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 21,2002,05:17 Top of Thread Archive
Maybe you could have his boots bronzed in chocolate. Would that errand take too long? It could be a sort of combination door prize and door stop.

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Re:Doorstops :-)

Re : Re: Wake up, Christel, here we come /Shirley --- Kathy in Atlanta
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Mar 21,2002,07:58 Top of Thread Archive
Kathy, you are killing me! It is too early in the morning to think about bronzing Dr. A's boots in anything. :-)
It would make a nice doorprize or door stop, though. Good thinking, Kathy.

Shirley




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Re : Re:Doorstops :-) --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Mar 21,2002,16:18 Top of Thread Archive
Just don't become a boot-licker. I hate boot-lickers. (Is that an okay term to use on this generic BB? I think it's okay, but could be naive. If so, please delete!)

Sally in North Idaho where the water in one bathroom froze last night (first day of spring). I didn't leave faucet running and caught heck as I was the last one up. Only took a few minutes with the hair dryer and I was saved from a cold shower to start the day.




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Re : Wake up, Christel, here we come --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Christel-California , Mar 19,2002,16:34 Top of Thread Archive
Hi guys, I wasn't sleeping, I was out shopping and the bags are all over the floor and I don't feel like unpacking.
What a lovely surprise, a "Surprise Depression Party". Hope you all get here soon. Hope you don't mind that the bed isn't made, the house a mess and pet hair all over everything.
The sun is shining and it's dry but very windy and cold. We did wake up to some snow yesterday and I hoped for more, but it was only a tease.
Sally, don't count on iced tea in my house, way too cold, hot tea only.
I have plenty of chocolate for all the chocolate lovers and some special chocolate covered Tofu for Delaine. I also have Peeps in the house, ate a whole package last night and wished I hadn't.
I myself like anything that's fluffy or whipped. Fluffy Tapioca pudding with raspberries or a black forest cherry cake with lots of whipped cream.
I don't have a pool, so we don't have to worry about Alan falling in. Our septic tank is covered up, no worry there. We do have a mountain top which Horst (hubby) calls "Eagles Peak" (and do other things). Should anyone see Alan climbing the mountain, restrain him, he could have a very nasty fall.
By the way, we don't have eagles, just hawks and crows and lots of smaller birds.
Please get here soon, otherwise I have to start cleaning up and I don't wanna.

Christel in Ca. who's having a party !!! :-)




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Re : Re: Wake up, Christel, here we come --- Christel-California
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Mar 19,2002,16:51 Top of Thread Archive
It's about time that you got home. Just leave the bags on the floor-I love going through "stuff". Don't worry about the cold and wind. Life's not perfect-we just need to get away from the rain and clouds. Sunshine will do just fine. And maybe if it is windy enough, Alan won't be tempted to climb up Eagles Peak. Delaine and I could bandage him up and nurse his wounds after he fell but who would carry him down the mountaintop? I still think that we need to keep him well away from your septic tank, though, cover or no cover.
Black Forest Cherry Cake sounds grand. We shall have "real" whipped cream and none of this "cool whip" stuff.
Go out and shoosh all the birdies away until Sally gets there and is inside. We don't want her having any panic attacks. :-)
Roy will come early and vacuum for you. He especially loves to vacuum up dog hair-he's had lots of practice with my indoor collie.
If you see a boat pulling up in your front yard, you'll know that we've arrived.
Dee is the guest of honor-she'll be the one with the "box light". She is very fragile right now so don't tell her that she looks really silly carrying that light around with her. :-)

Shirley in Arkansas relieved that Christel finally got home.

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Re : Re: I'm glad that you finally got home --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Dee in OR , Mar 19,2002,17:17 Top of Thread Archive
Christel, you're home!! Okay, here we come now. Are you ready for the "boat peopl"? The boat is coming all the way from Scotland, I think. Shirley, make sure you bring plenty of Scott Tissue for Pippa to ward off homesickness.

You're just jealous because you don't have a light box to carry around with you. I can walk with a beat and pretend it is a boom box! Maybe I'll even sing out loud and really make people wonder???!!

See you there. Can't wait to see you Christel and help you go through your bags of stuff.

Please leave the light on for us!

Hugs,
DeEYORE




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Re : Re: Wake up, Christel, here we come --- Christel-California
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Mar 19,2002,20:52 Top of Thread Archive
Fluffy tapioca pudding with raspberries sounds scrumptious ... even better than chocolate, except for homemade fudge. Don't worry about the unmade bed; we won't be sleeping, too much talking and laughing to do. See you soon, we'll be boarding that ark two by two.

Sally in North Idaho who will be happy with hot tea if you're not having a heat wave.




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Re : Re: Wake up, Christel, here we come --- Christel-California
Posted by Delaine Inman , Mar 19,2002,22:57 Top of Thread Archive
If the house is not a mess, the bed is made and there is no dog hair, I for one will not feel at home. Shopping bags are nice too, we can be see what you bought. It is so nice of you to remember the chocolate covered tofu. I can bring the tofutti ice cream to eat with it. Shirley can not have any. Sounds like we have Santa, I mean Alan, covered and can keep him safe. Are you sure you don't have a lily pond? Hide the ladder too. He is not allowed to have kidney stones while he is there either unless they are very small ones he can pass easily. Most of us have had babies and Shirley and I can help him with his breathing while everyone else holds his hand and gives him soft tissues. DeeYore can will be snitless during this time and will not be allowed to disagree with Shirley. On second thought, maybe that would be too boring to keep either one of them quiet. They are too funny to hold back.



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Re : Re: Wake up, Christel, here we come --- Delaine Inman
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Mar 20,2002,09:55 Top of Thread Archive
Delaine, I don't even want to see your tofutti ice cream or your chocolate covered tofu (they couldn't put enough chocolate on it). You will have to hide behind one of Christel's "stacks" and eat it by yourself. What with us having to take care of June's latest infection, Evelyn's neck and back pain (calling for massages), making sure Alan doesn't fall into or on anything and straining his urine for kidney stones all the while holding his hand, you aren't going to have time to eat anything made of tofu (covered or otherwise). :-)
June made the mistake of telling Virginia that she could give orders so now I'm probably in major trouble because of all the "not so true" things that I have said about her in the past. We'll just have to hope that she is late getting to the party due to side excursions looking at botanical gardens along the way.
I think that Sally is going to need some looking after, too. We'll let her keep a journal of the entire event. And yes, Delaine, you can make an entry or two also. I'm sure that Virginia will bring along her Websters and countless other reference books as well as her laptop ready to answer any and all questions.
How are we going to get Dee out of this last snit? I have to be able to argue with her. I take back what I said about Dee looking silly/stupid carrying around a big box light. I think that we are just going to have to go get her and her light and drag her out of the house kicking and screaming to make sure that she gets to the party. It might be easier to just coax her out with chocolate or a new puppy.

Shirley in Arkansas still with rain. Yuck I need Dee's light




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Re : Re: Wake up, Christel, here we come --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Virginia , Mar 20,2002,13:38 Top of Thread Archive
I want to hide and eat chocolate covered tofu with Delaine. I've never tried it and I feel adventuresome. I'll probably let you off the hook, Shirley, or I'll get myself in more trouble with you and there's no telling what you'd say about me then.

I have my Hortus 3 packed, so we can look up all the plants along the way. I have some neat plant ID CDs for my (nonexistent) laptop that should help, too.

I'll help drag Dee if you need me to, but maybe we could enlist the aid of her sister. They seemed to enjoy doing things together at the conference last year.

Virginia in Alabama - waiting on the rain to get here (again), but already getting Tennessee's run-off. The river's up.




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Re : Re: Wake up, Christel, here we come --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Evelyn , Mar 21,2002,00:11 Top of Thread Archive
Shirley,
I'm game for chocolate covered tofu as long as I count the carbs. I think many people who have tried tofu, haven't tried it in the proper recipe. It's wonderful when it's used the right way. Plain tofu isn't very appetizing though.
My Endocrinologist gave me some good news. My Hemaglobin A test result was 6.7. Normal is 6.5. My pump is doing a good job for me. I needed some good news!
Evelyn



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Re: Wake up, Christel, here we come

Re : Re: Wake up, Christel, here we come --- Evelyn
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 21,2002,05:35 Top of Thread Archive
Glad you had good news Evelyn - as you said, you needed some - its about time!

I'm game for tofu as well, but not chocolate covered, unless its white chocolate (can't stand the other stuff). You are right there's nothing like a ceasar salad dressing made with silken tofu, and many more good recipes (although I don't cook with tofu as much as I should).

June in Toronto (beb/meige)




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Re: Wake up, Christel, here we come

Re : Re: Wake up, Christel, here we come --- June in Toronto
Posted by Evelyn , Mar 21,2002,19:00 Top of Thread Archive
I use tofu in nearly all my cooking. I've discovered the garlic herb tofu which is more tasty. I take my food to potlucks, and several people ask for the recipes. So tofu can be made to taste good in combination with other things. My son-in-law used to "pig out" when he came here to eat when I used dairy, etc. Now he won't come very often to eat because he tried the blah tofu a long time ago, and expects all food containing tofu to taste blah. Doesn't know what he's missing:)
Evelyn



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Re: Tofu

Re : Re: Wake up, Christel, here we come --- Evelyn
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Mar 21,2002,07:38 Top of Thread Archive
I'm glad that you got some good news Evelyn. It was about time.
I've only tried tofu one time and that was a very long time ago and I don't even remember how I attempted to prepare it. I would probably try it again but I just wouldn't tell Delaine about it-it's too much fun giving her a hard time about it. I love to see her "fight" for her tofu. Builds character, you know. It'll be our little secret, Evelyn.

Shirley




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Re: Tofu

Re : Re: Tofu --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Evelyn , Mar 21,2002,19:06 Top of Thread Archive
You're such a kick, Shirley. I make the best lasagna using tofu. I have never had anybody "not like it". One young lady told Gerry that "nobody makes lasagna like Evelyn" and my granddaughter says she will eat lasagna "as long as Mam-ma makes it". I don't know why it seems so good to them, but I'm honored:)
Evelyn



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Re: Tofu lasagna

Re : Re: Tofu --- Evelyn
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Mar 21,2002,20:24 Top of Thread Archive
Ok, Evelyn, I want your lasagna recipe. I'll give it a try. I hope that Delaine is not listening. I'll leave an email address above. I think that I may have yours. No rush-whenever it is convenient.

Shirley




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Re: Tofu lasagna/Delaine is listening

Re : Re: Tofu lasagna --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Delaine Inman , Mar 21,2002,21:42 Top of Thread Archive
Yummy, I love tofu lasagna with veggie soy cheese. Girl friend you are in for a treat! Soy has been proven to relieve pain, decrease heart disease, balance the hormones and a million other good things. I've eaten so much that I will be healthy as a horse one day. I am going to leave BEB in the dust and I can tell everyone it was the soybeans that did it! All tobacco farmers can start growing soybeans and the world will be a healthier place!



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Re: Tofu lasagna/Delaine is listening

Re : Re: Tofu lasagna/Delaine is listening --- Delaine Inman
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Mar 21,2002,22:31 Top of Thread Archive
Evesdropper! I said nothing about trying veggie soy cheese-just tofu. Thankyou but I will have real cheese on my lasagna. I will not be converted. I'll croak of heart disease and clogged arteries and you can come to my funeral and have them engrave on my tombstone that I "should have eaten more soy".
I'm with you though on having the tobacco farmers grow soybeans.

Shirley in Arkansas taking one small tofu step at a time.




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Re: Tofu lasagna/Delaine is listening

Re : Re: Tofu lasagna/Delaine is listening --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 22,2002,07:00 Top of Thread Archive
Tofu, soy bean - all the same thing Shirley - just in different forms. Soy (tofu) cheese is good - all kinds of flavours, very good in lasagna - try it you might like it! Soy puddings are wonderful as well - you just don't know wht your missing girl:-)

June in Toronto who threw out all her regular recipes year's ago and now hubby has high cholesterol, its a must to use alternatives to dairy, meats, chocolate, etc.




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Re: Tofu lasagna/Delaine is listening

Re : Re: Tofu lasagna/Delaine is listening --- June in Toronto
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Mar 22,2002,13:04 Top of Thread Archive
June, how come husband has high cholesterol now after you threw out all your "good" recipes years ago? Does tofu cause high cholesterol?

Sally, puzzled in North Idaho




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Re: Tofu lasagna/Delaine is listening

Re : Re: Tofu lasagna/Delaine is listening --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 22,2002,14:44 Top of Thread Archive
No, no, no, Sally. Hubby and I stopped eating meat a few years ago (even though hubby was brought up on a farm) - we just decided we didn't want/like it anymore - we do eat turkey and fish though. So I threw out all my meat recipes - long standing ones.

Then hubby got 2 types of cholesterol (the LDL kind), one is hereditary and nothing much can be done about that. The other he controls somewhat by diet (that's where the tofu, fruit and veggies come in), abstaining from hydrogenated and vegetable fats (esp. those in pastry), cheese, dairy (he can have 1% milk), coconut, etc. This nutritional way of eating (rather than saying diet) still hasn't completely sorted him out and the doctor has put him on Lipitor medicine. I just found out YESTERDAY that Lipitor causes Peripheral Neuropathy, which he has (he's not diabetic - they usually get PN - his is considered to be idiopathic PN (or they `don't know what caused it')). |Also the pain medication he's on (although only a low dosage) causes PN as well - ITS LIKE FIGHTING A LOSING BATTLE WITH MEDICINE.......

By the way - one desert recipe I put in `our' cookbook is called "John's favourite Chocolate Trifle" - it was his favourite - now he can't eat it, but I submitted it anyway. I know this is a longer reply than you asked for, Sally - forgive me - I vented (about medications):-)

June in Toronto (beb/meige) who knows Sally has a good listening ear!




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Re: Tofu lasagna/Delaine is listening

Re : Re: Tofu lasagna/Delaine is listening --- June in Toronto
Posted by Christel-California , Mar 22,2002,21:13 Top of Thread Archive
June, what exactly is Peripheral Neuropathy? My husband is on Lipitor for about 2 months now and the Dr. said he has to take it for the rest of his life. Now I have something else to worry about, who needs it?

Christel in Ca.




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Re: PERIPHERAL NEUROPATHY/CHRISTEL

Re : Re: Tofu lasagna/Delaine is listening --- Christel-California
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 22,2002,23:40 Top of Thread Archive
"Peripheral Neuropathy (PN) is the term used to describe disorders resulting in injuries to the peripheral nerves. It can be caused by diseases that affect only the peripheral nerves or by conditions that affect other parts of the body as well. And symptoms almost involve weakness, numbness or pain - usually in the arms and legs. The Peripheral Nervous System is one of the two main divisions of the body and nervous system. (The other is the Cranial Nervous System, which includes the brain and spinal cord.) "Peripheral" means away from the center: and this system contains the nerves that connect the Central Nervous System to the muscles,skin and internal organs."....so says the PN Handbook.

I believe my husband's case of PN is mild compared to many others, but it is gradually getting worse - although he still has numbness in his feet and up his shins, and beginning in his fingers (he plays piano so that's a big problem). The numbness he suggests is like `pins and needles' whereby you don't know where your feet and legs are (and are so unbalanced or weak) but can feel shooting pains. PN'ers can't always feel a cut on their foot or bleeding ulcers and they have to be so very careful. I understand that there are about 100 kinds of PN - many diabetics have PN (the majority of PN patients are diabetic), then there's small fibre PN, large fibre PN and many more. My husband's is called Idiopathic PN - which simply means they don't know what caused it or, perhaps, they can't be bothered to do all the testing necessary to find out! It can be caused by an intolerance to alcohol as well. Many people with PN are in wheelchairs as their muscles have atrophied due to weakness (not lack of exercise). Neurotin (which is the drug of controversy right now) is taken by a lot of them for their incredible break-through pain (they take the drug in the thousands of mgs) along with other medications and still they feel pain. B12, methylcolbalmine type seems to help in the beginning of PN with the regeneration of nerves, - there have been reports on this but it is not widely accepted/known by some doctors. The P-5-P type of B6 is also helpful if taken early enough (this must be taken only in 50 mg doses tho').

I hope I haven't been too long winded - if you need more info. let me know. Cheers

June in Toronto (beb/meige)

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Re: PERIPHERAL NEUROPATHY/DEE

Re : Re: PERIPHERAL NEUROPATHY/JUNE --- Dee in OR
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 24,2002,07:27 Top of Thread Archive
Why `shocked' to read my name Dee? I'm capable:-)

June in Toronto (beb/meige)




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Re: PERIPHERAL NEUROPATHY

Re : Re: PERIPHERAL NEUROPATHY/DEE --- June in Toronto
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Mar 24,2002,10:11 Top of Thread Archive
Indeed you are very capable, June. I know virtually nothing about PN so I learned a lot from your post. Thanks for the rundown on it.

Shirley in Arkansas with BEB/Apraxia and enjoying a few better eye days recently. I don't want to say it too loud.

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Re: Shshhh - Shirley's enjoying Better Eye Days!

Re : Re: PERIPHERAL NEUROPATHY --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 24,2002,10:34 Top of Thread Archive
So glad to hear about your better eye days Shirley - I won't tell a soul:-)

June in Toronto has is cooking for the family today to celebrate a 39th birthday (not mine - how I wish!)




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Re: PERIPHERAL NEUROPATHY

Re : Re: PERIPHERAL NEUROPATHY --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Joann Humphrey , Mar 24,2002,14:09 Top of Thread Archive
Shirley - Hope you continue to have good days. You deserve it.
Joann in Ft Smith, where it's cloudy & warm. Should be out raking leaves.

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Re: PERIPHERAL NEUROPATHY/CHRISTEL

Re : Re: PERIPHERAL NEUROPATHY/CHRISTEL --- June in Toronto
Posted by Alan Phair , Mar 23,2002,21:11 Top of Thread Archive
June, that was a very interesting response on the PN. Thanks for the update. The only question I had was regarding the comment about Neurontin being the drug of controversy. Did you mean that because no one seems to know how it works but yet it seems to? I take Neurontin myself along with the Klonopin and it seems to help but I can't put my finger on how it does. Sounds strange I know. When I asked my Doctor before taking it at the suggestion of another BEB patient, he said that I could try it as he has never heard anyone have a bad effect from it and it is being used for numerous ailments. It seems they are finding more uses for it every day.



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Re: PERIPHERAL NEUROPATHY/CHRISTEL

Re : Re: PERIPHERAL NEUROPATHY/CHRISTEL --- Alan Phair
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 24,2002,06:57 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Alan, according to reports "a former employee has acused drugmaker Warner-Lambert, acquired by Pfizer Inc. in 2000. of aggressively marketing the anticovulsant NEUROTIN (gabapentin) to physicians for more than a dozen medical conditions for which it was no tapproved, the New York Times reported on Thusday........To boost sales, the company illegally marked Neurotin to physicians for conditions including attention deficit disorder in children, neurologic pain and bipolar disorder....... The US attorney's office in Boston is holding criminal and civil investigations into the marketing of Neurotin......."

Best wishes June in Toronto (beb/meige)




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Re: Tofu

Re : Re: Tofu --- Evelyn
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Mar 22,2002,13:02 Top of Thread Archive
Evelyn, I'd like to give your lasagna recipe a try. Doubt I can dupe my beef-raising family, but it will be fun to try. Thanks.

Sally in North Idaho where the sky is blue, snow has turned to patches and mud, and the sun is bright (too bright for me, but I can close draperies and minis). Happy Spring, finally.




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Re: Tofu Lasagna/EVELYN CAN YOU POST IT SVP?

Re : Re: Tofu --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 22,2002,14:46 Top of Thread Archive
A lot of us would like this recipe, Evelyn, any chance of you posting it????
June in Toronto



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Re: Tofu Lasagna/EVELYN CAN YOU POST IT SVP?

Re : Re: Tofu Lasagna/EVELYN CAN YOU POST IT SVP? --- June in Toronto
Posted by Evelyn , Mar 22,2002,18:49 Top of Thread Archive
I will try to post it later, although I don't use a written recipe. I always add things as I go, so it's a little different every time. Right now, I need to put groceries away.
Evelyn



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Re: Tofu Lasagna/NO RUSH TO POST EVELYN - AT YOUR LEISURE

Re : Re: Tofu Lasagna/EVELYN CAN YOU POST IT SVP? --- Evelyn
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 22,2002,18:59 Top of Thread Archive
I'm not trying to put stress on you Evelyn - just saw a couple of posts that people wanted you to e-mail them the recipe. I thought, perhaps, some time if you posted it here once, we all could see and enjoy it.

June in Toronto




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Re: Tofu Lasagna/NO RUSH TO POST EVELYN - AT YOUR LEISURE

Re : Re: Tofu Lasagna/NO RUSH TO POST EVELYN - AT YOUR LEISURE --- June in Toronto
Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 23,2002,07:33 Top of Thread Archive
Yes, I like this idea, June. I might like to try it to. My one and only experience with tofu was bad, obviously I am inexperienced with flavoring it as I understand it takes on the flavor of what you mix it with.



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Re: Tofu Lasagna/NO RUSH TO POST EVELYN - AT YOUR LEISURE

Re : Re: Tofu Lasagna/NO RUSH TO POST EVELYN - AT YOUR LEISURE --- Kathy in Atlanta
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 23,2002,10:33 Top of Thread Archive
Yes, that's correct, Kathy - tofu takes on other flavours - its good to marinate the firm kind for grilling. I used to cook it a lot more than I do of late - but think I will get back to it. I use all the tofu (soy) cheeses - there are some lovely ones on the market, especially the feta cheese in brine. And now there are soy puddings, some flavoured with almond - these are good with frozen fruit and blended up for a drink, yummy. I also use soy milk - I picked up almond milk by mistake the other day (couldn't see properly) and that was a great flavour. Best wishes

June in Toronto (beb/meige)




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Re: Tofu Lasagna/NO RUSH TO POST EVELYN - AT YOUR LEISURE

Re : Re: Tofu Lasagna/NO RUSH TO POST EVELYN - AT YOUR LEISURE --- June in Toronto
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Mar 23,2002,15:37 Top of Thread Archive
If I may hang my ignorance out on the clothesline for all to see: what is the purpose of this "tofu" stuff?

Sally in North Idaho where it tried to be spring this morning, but has now clouded over.




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Re: Tofu IQ

Re : Re: Tofu Lasagna/NO RUSH TO POST EVELYN - AT YOUR LEISURE --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Mar 23,2002,15:47 Top of Thread Archive
Sally, I'm afraid that I'm in the same boat. I know that it is made out of soy (I think) but Tofu to me is that block of white stuff that can be cut up to use as a substitute for meat. But where do the tofu cheeses and stuff come in? Is it all one in the same or what? We need a really Tofu savvy person to help out us tofu illiterate souls. And I don't even want to hear from Virginia on this one.

Shirley in Arkansas




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Re: Tofu IQ

Re : Re: Tofu IQ --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 23,2002,17:48 Top of Thread Archive
I don't have a lot of tofu savy, but....Tofu (soy bean) can come in various forms, soft for desserts, medium and firm tofu for use in `meat'-like dishes. The cheese tofu's come in various tastes, cheddar, monteray jack, feta plain, feta in brine, and more. I like tofutti products that make (oops!) `better than cream cheese', `better than sour cream' - there's a lot out there. Perhaps Evelyn will tell us all she knows about tofu -I could look it up, but am too tired. Cheers

June in Toronto




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Re: Tofu IQ

Re : Re: Tofu IQ --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Delaine Inman , Mar 23,2002,23:13 Top of Thread Archive
Shirley, Soy beans can indeed be made into substitutes for any dairy product and in any form. Some brands are better than others the cheese use to be like rubber and wouldn't melt, but that is not the case anymore. Soy can be made into just about any kind of "meat". Tofu comes in the old fashion kind in water that crumbles and can be used like cottage cheese or in the Silky form that can be used in stir fry and in salads and all kinds of dishes. I use bacos made from soy, the sour cream, the cream cheese, the sliced cheese in all flavors, the shredded, the milk(enriched), parmesan, the burgers, the sausage, hot dogs, ground beef crumble, puddings, yogurt and many other things. Again it some brands make better products in one thing and not in another. Soy is good cholesterol and fat and helps carry out the bad cholesterol and fat. It raises the HDL which are the wagons that carry out the bad cholesterol. A study was released last week that shows it decreased pain. We already knew it is good for almost everything from menopause to preventing cancer and overall health. It is an acquired taste for some, but most people who eat what I cook can't tell the difference unless they know ahead of time. Now my daughter asks, "Is this real or soy?" Now I do eat the real thing when it comes to meat sometimes. But not the dairy, because I really like it better in the soy now. It obviously does not prevent or cure BEB or FMS. But I had eaten all those Dairy products all my life so who knows how much damage it did to me. It sure causes my sinuses to become inflammed and infected from the swelling. I will honor your wishes if you die before I do, but I'll just carry a sign not engrave it on your tombstone. "I wished she had eaten more soy! I'm gonna miss her so much!"



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Re: TOFU STUFF!

Re : Re: Tofu Lasagna/NO RUSH TO POST EVELYN - AT YOUR LEISURE --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 23,2002,17:43 Top of Thread Archive
Well, Sally, tofu (soy bean) is a protein that has not been injected with medications like meat/poultry has in most cases. Even salmon has dye to make it more salmon-coloured! It is not subjected to being crowded in cages and never getting out, it doesn't sit in its own feces, or lick the iron bolts in a cage because it craves salt (as in veal calves) etc, etc, etc. Also I think its better for you and cooked correctly, it tasts great! Cheers

June in Toronto




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Re: TOFU STUFF!

Re : Re: TOFU STUFF! --- June in Toronto
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Mar 23,2002,23:24 Top of Thread Archive
June, you sound like an advocate for PETA ... and I am too as far as I can get away with. Having a husband and sons who raise beef cattle (but do not inject them) and must have MEAT all the time, I'm out-numbered!

The thought of all the animal suffering can throw me into a deep funk!

Sally in North Idaho who will now have a nightmare about suffering animals.




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Re: TOFU STUFF!

Re : Re: TOFU STUFF! --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Christel-California , Mar 25,2002,10:30 Top of Thread Archive
I'm with you on that, Sally. I guess that's why I compensate with my own animals, they are spoiled rotten.

Christel in Ca.




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Re: Tofu Lasagna/NO RUSH TO POST EVELYN - AT YOUR LEISURE

Re : Re: Tofu Lasagna/NO RUSH TO POST EVELYN - AT YOUR LEISURE --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Evelyn , Mar 24,2002,15:30 Top of Thread Archive
It sounds like the tofu subject has been pretty well covered:) I know some used to worry that we wouldn't get enough protein without meat, but soy products have been found to be higher in protein than meat, and for most people will digest much more readily. I also have problems with alleries to dairy products, so discovering using tofu and soy products has been a valuable thing for me. Tofu does need to be used in moderation, however, because of it's high protein content and fat (even though it's a "good" fat, and can be obtained in low fat version. Just like anything else, these things are good in moderate amounts, when used with a balanced diet. I don't use some of the soy cheeses because some contain alcohol. I've only been vegan a little over a year, so I'm still trying some of the products.
It was funny yesterday, we invited some people to eat lunch with us to share my lasagna. The man ate three helpings, I think. Then we somehow got on the subject of tofu, and he said he didn't care for it. I had to tell him that it was in the lasagna. I made it differently than usual this time, and had added some garlic/herb tofu that was crumbed and mixed with eggless salad mix. The lady, who is vegetarian, thought it was cheese.
I will have to post the lasagna recipe later, as I've already made this too long.
Evelyn, getting ready for a candle party.

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Re: Tofu Lasagna/NO RUSH TO POST EVELYN - AT YOUR LEISURE

Re : Re: Tofu Lasagna/NO RUSH TO POST EVELYN - AT YOUR LEISURE --- June in Toronto
Posted by Ann Doyle , Mar 23,2002,07:37 Top of Thread Archive
I just typed in tofu recipies and got enough to keep me busy.
a couple of good sites
fatfree.com/recipies/tofu/
tofu.dom/recipies.html
overtures.com/d/search/p/mindspring/?Keywords=tofu+recipies
There may be a / between ? and Keywords. Ann Doyle



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Re: Tofu Recipe links/Ann

Re : Re: Tofu Lasagna/NO RUSH TO POST EVELYN - AT YOUR LEISURE --- Ann Doyle
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 23,2002,10:43 Top of Thread Archive
Thanks, Ann, I'll try them sometime. I didn't sleep much (again) last night and can't browse the net today. I've been going to cooking demonstrations once per week with a friend who drives me (I've gone about 8 times so far) - they are free and are held in our Loblaws store. They have been great as I don't mind the cooking, but after ALL THESE YEARS, I sometimes just don't know what to cook - or to be inspired to cook. We get a different chef every week and get to eat a small meal of what they cook - all very interesting and friendly - sometimes its a nutritionist and we get to ask lots of questions. Only one chef did a very fatty menu that I wouldn't bother with. I'm really hooked on couscous now and have at least a thousand ways (maybe I'm exagerating) to cook chicken (I substitute turkey)! Cheers

June in Toronto (beb/meige)

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Re: Wake up, Christel, here we come /delaine

Re : Re: Wake up, Christel, here we come --- Delaine Inman
Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 21,2002,05:29 Top of Thread Archive
Maybe we could cover part of Alan in chocolate or Nutella.
kidney stones are awfull!! hope those go away soon.



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Re: Mustn't go there ;-)

Re : Re: Wake up, Christel, here we come /delaine --- Kathy in Atlanta
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Mar 21,2002,08:03 Top of Thread Archive
Once again Kathy, you mustn't go there. If Alan see's this, he's going to want it done. Think Santa-we'll let him hand out the chocolate.
Kathy, have you turned into a wild woman?

Shirley in Arkansas where the sun is actually shining. Haven't seen it in days.




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Re: Mustn't go there ;-)

Re : Re: Mustn't go there ;-) --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 23,2002,07:18 Top of Thread Archive
Noooo, I don't think so. I've never been wild in my life, that's the problem. thanks for putting me on track.



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Re: Mustn't go there ;-)

Re : Re: Mustn't go there ;-) --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 23,2002,07:30 Top of Thread Archive
Also I had a really horrible nightmare before you started this party and writing helped me "break thru the rubbish", so to speak. My bad dreams have stopped, so you see I had to get involved in this party on a different level for awhile.



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Re: Mustn't go there ;-)...breaking thru the rubbish

Re : Re: Mustn't go there ;-) --- Kathy in Atlanta
Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 23,2002,07:58 Top of Thread Archive
I meant breaking thru the rubbish of my bad dream. Sometimes when one is caught in bad thoughts that clutter their minds, for example a nightmare that remains with you during the day, some sort of creative process is often the result of this. It happens to artists , writers, musicians, and others. It is a sort of phenomena that I have historically noticed in reading and life experience. Sorry to ramble on, but I had to explain it.



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Re: Mustn't go there ;-)...breaking thru the rubbish

Re : Re: Mustn't go there ;-)...breaking thru the rubbish --- Kathy in Atlanta
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Mar 23,2002,09:08 Top of Thread Archive
Kathy, you just go right ahead and get rid of the bad dreams by doing what ever you need to do. We aim to please, here. And your creativity gives me "tidbits" to keep my sense of humor alive (as if that was a major problem for me). We'll just say that we fill some gaps every now and then.

Shirley in Arkansas finished with one son's spring break and beginning another son's. This one came in sick, though.




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Re: Mustn't go there ;-)/NIGHTMARES

Re : Re: Mustn't go there ;-)...breaking thru the rubbish --- Kathy in Atlanta
Posted by Dee in OR , Mar 23,2002,13:01 Top of Thread Archive
Nightmares are actually good for you because it's your psyche's way (unconscious mind) of telling you that you need to work on something. And we are all more inclined to remember a nightmare verses just a dream.

Dee in OR, proud member of QuackWatch - GO DUCKS!




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Re: Mustn't go there ;-)...breaking thru the rubbish

Re : Re: Mustn't go there ;-)...breaking thru the rubbish --- Kathy in Atlanta
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Mar 23,2002,15:46 Top of Thread Archive
If nightmares signify that we are good writers/artists/musicians ... then I am a genius!! I do write and play the piano some, but never realized how "gifted" I am! Must get busy now on my novel!

Sally in North Idaho who would love to sleep or nap sometime without endless tragedies and frustrations reeling through my head!




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Re: Mustn't go there ;-)...breaking thru the rubbish

Re : Re: Mustn't go there ;-)...breaking thru the rubbish --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 23,2002,17:38 Top of Thread Archive
Sally, are the `endless tragedies and frustrations reeling through your head' something that you've gone through in your lifetime? Or are they imaginary? Interested.

June in Toronto




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Re: Mustn't go there ;-)

Re : Re: Mustn't go there ;-) --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Alan Phair , Mar 23,2002,21:03 Top of Thread Archive
Ok Shirley, what did I miss out on. I think that I want to join a pity party so that I can unwind a little. Soem of these discussions are getting too serious for me. I can't wait till the warm weather comes so I can at least fall into my pool for excitement...Alan



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Re: You're footing the bill for the party!

Re : Re: Mustn't go there ;-) --- Alan Phair
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Mar 23,2002,21:31 Top of Thread Archive
Alan, you're just going to have to go back and read. I couldn't begin to tell you what you've missed. I sortof volunteered you to pay for a 4 week cruise for all of us. (it was Christel's idea to go). And I think that I might have told people that you would be footing the bill for the pity party and air fare to the conference this year. You really should stick around when we're having a party. Read and weep.
I thought that you were around to protect yourself. We've been looking for you. ;-)

Shirley, hiding from Alan




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Re: The party YOU paid for!

Re : Re: Mustn't go there ;-) --- Alan Phair
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Mar 23,2002,23:19 Top of Thread Archive
Alan, I thought it was worth a try in getting all the hot heads calmed down, all the sniffles taken care of and any other annoyances of winter ... so I organized a Cabin Fever party. Different ones kept volunteering you to pay for this and that, so it's been a great time. Might still be going on it you want to drop in at Christl's in California. You can take the ark home as Pippa rows back to the Highlands. All in good fun.

Sally in North Idaho who thinks maybe we need to call in the clowns to get everyone back on speaking terms.




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Re : Re: Mustn't go there ;-) --- Alan Phair
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 24,2002,07:05 Top of Thread Archive
Well, Alan, I was supposed to pick you up to go to the party - I was flying over your place waving and shouting - no sign - finally had to give up as was running low on fuel! Hang on though I'll break away and pick you up now - so be prepared to jump (have a bit of a problem putting this thing right on the ground) AND BRING YOUR SANTA SUIT AND YOUR CHEQUE BOOK. OK! SEE YOU IN A MINUTE:-)

June in Toronto who's having a great time at the party, girls are being extra nice to me and `my cold', Sally's got lots of soup, there's of tofu and that `other kind of food'! Back rubs and massages are being done, the music is great, - I hope Alan doesn't keep me waiting,I don't want to miss much! Bee back asap with Alan and his Santa suit




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Re: Wake up, Christel, here we come /Christel

Re : Re: Wake up, Christel, here we come --- Christel-California
Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 21,2002,05:23 Top of Thread Archive
Chocolate tapioca pudding! with fresh berries. oops, they only have that kind in instant.



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Re: DEEPRESSION

Re : DEEPRESSION --- Dee in OR
Posted by Delaine Inman , Mar 18,2002,23:12 Top of Thread Archive
I love Eyore and Deeyore in dreary Oregon and dreary Deeyore snit and all. Sorry you are Deepressed. Hugs ((((((((((Hugs))))))))))))))) Hugs.
This too shall pass. Let's have some fun. I'm sick of the dreary days. Let's party. I have a hug soft bunny I'll bring and a bunch of daffodils that have dried from the rain. I'll bring some get in a good mood music and enough rich chocolate fudge to O.D. on (Over Depression).



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Re : Re: DEEPRESSION --- Delaine Inman
Posted by Dee in OR , Mar 19,2002,01:27 Top of Thread Archive
Sounds great - come on over - or is it up? Maybe down? Anyway, y'all come on and we'll do the chocolate thing (dark chocolate), and Sally can pretend she is Martha Stewart, and Shirley and I can disagree about what we agree on (no, you didn't hurt my feelings Shirley!) and I'll set up my light and we can all party in the Light! Don't forget to wear your boots and rain gear. Maybe even snorkel gear. Does any body have a boat they could bring?

See you all soon.

DeEYORE in OR




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Re: DEEPRESSION

Re : Re: DEEPRESSION --- Dee in OR
Posted by pippa (Pippa,pippa), Mar 19,2002,04:59 Top of Thread Archive
Dee, for a depressed person you have a helluva sense of humour! Can I come over too? I have the boat,... although it is a bit of a sail across the Atlantic! And I would have any white chocolate that was going around. It wouldn't be wasted.
Pippa, also in the rain today, and stiff all over this time from having been to yoga yesterday.



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California please!

Re : Re: DEEPRESSION --- pippa
Posted by Delaine Inman , Mar 19,2002,08:58 Top of Thread Archive
I bet the best comedians are often depressed. Pippa in cyberspace your boat will cross the Atlantic......no problem! But DeeYore I want to go to California where it is not raining. I want some real sunshine or I'm going to be a real snit like you have never seen! Please come to California. Have the person who draws Winnie the Pooh, draw DEEyore visiting Christal in the desert. We'll put on hats, visors, sunglasses and sunscreen and for an entire cabin fever/pity party and who knows we may find enough magic to rid ourselves of all dystonia and anything else that ails us. IT COULD HAPPEN IF TINKERBELL SHOWED UP! We'll go to Oregon when the weather is nice and warm and sunny and it's too hot in the desert. I've never been to California. It is suppose to rain AGAIN today and tonight. Pippa swing by Tennessee on your way to California and pick me up after you pick up Virginia in Alabama and then we'll get Shirley in Arkansas and Kelly in Dallas. Anybody else want a ride in Pippa's boat? June could sweep by and bring Alan, Sally,Ann,Andrew,Priscilla,Rhonda,Denise,Kathy,Lynn,Joyce,Shansy,Mindy,Judy,and Kathleen. Tha Vitto can run over and hop on the boat before it crosses the Atlantic and Linda is already in California. Gisela you come any way you can get there. My short term and long term memory is struggling here. Everybody I left out....well your not left out from the party....Ya'll come.



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Re: California please!

Re : California please! --- Delaine Inman
Posted by Virginia , Mar 19,2002,10:24 Top of Thread Archive
Maybe Alan could divert some of that rain up to New Hampshire. The numbers show that we're below normal for the year, but I think we're catching up all at once.

Joanne M. come on, too - it should be a short commute for you.

I have lots of daffodils still in bud. If I pick them before they bloom, they will open inside and not be droopy.




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Re: California please!

Re : Re: California please! --- Virginia
Posted by Joanne Matuzas , Mar 19,2002,18:09 Top of Thread Archive
You bet I'll be there. If you've never been to California, don't know what you are missing. Desert is beautiful and still cool. Just save me some chocolate and I'll be a happy camper with my sleeping bag--gee what a great pj party we could have :<) Christel, we are all on
our way!!!!



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Re : California please! --- Delaine Inman
Posted by Joann Humphrey , Mar 19,2002,10:39 Top of Thread Archive
I love all of your sense of humor, you make my day. I'm too serious myself. All I can do is tell jokes I get elsewhere. Hope it's okay to stick this joke in.
A blonde walks into a bank in NYC & asks for the loan officer. She says she's going to Europe on business for 2 weeks & needs to borrow $5000. The bank officer says the bank will need some kind of security for the loan, so the blonde hands over the keys to a new Rolls Royce. The car is parked on the street in front of the bank, she has the title & everything checks out. The bank agrees to accept the car as collateral for the loan. The bank's pres. & officers all enjoy a good laugh at the blonde for using a $250,000 Rolls as collateral against a $5000 loan. An employee of the bank then proceeds to drive the Rolls into the banks underground garage & parks it there. Two wks. later, the blonde returns, repays the $5000 & the interst, which comes to $15.41. The loan officer says,"Miss we are very happy to have your business & this transaction has worked out very nicely, but we are a little puzzled. While you were away, we checked you out & found that you are a multimillionaire. We've been wondering why would you bother to borrow $5000?" The blonds replies. "Where else in New York City can I park my car of 2 weeks for only $15.41 & expect it to be there when I return?"



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Re : Re: Humor --- Joann Humphrey
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 19,2002,12:38 Top of Thread Archive
And its not a dumb blonde joke either, Joann, I loved it.

June in Toronto




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Re : Re: Humor --- Joann Humphrey
Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 21,2002,05:39 Top of Thread Archive
That is goood! it's also long, takes a lot of memory. I could never tell one that long.



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Re: DEEPRESSION

Re : Re: DEEPRESSION --- pippa
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Mar 19,2002,10:30 Top of Thread Archive
Pippa, don't worry about the long sail. Cybersailing is extremely easy. You will have to make numerous stops to pick everyone up that wants to go. The more people that you pick up the more interesting it gets, though.
I think that we should build greenhouses with grow lights for everyone. We can also install some of those anti-depression lights in them, too. The actual building of the greenhousess will help us to keep our eyes open. We'll shop along the way so that we have all the materials that we need. Sally can bring different kinds of soup for all. Sally, I don't like spicy soup.
Someone will have to watch Alan around the pool if Christel has one. Virginia will need extra time so that she can tour all the botanical gardens along the way. Joanne M will bring extra visors for everyone.
Pippa, do bring chocolate that is indigenous :-) to your area.

Shirley in Arkansas who is waiting for the boat.




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greenhouses

Re : Re: DEEPRESSION --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Virginia , Mar 19,2002,23:00 Top of Thread Archive
I hate to inject serious note in all this fun and frivolity, but I had to quit working in the greenhouses in our botanical garden because it made my eyes, etc., worse.

Virginia in AL, planning a botanical garden trip soon




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Re : greenhouses --- Virginia
Posted by pippa (Pippa,pippa), Mar 20,2002,03:57 Top of Thread Archive
That is sad. Was it ithe lights in the greenhouses that made your eyes worse?
I am trying to think where AL is.....?



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Re : Re: greenhouses --- pippa
Posted by Virginia , Mar 20,2002,07:39 Top of Thread Archive
No, it isn't the lights - we don't have lights in the greenhouses. I think it is the high humidity.

Alabama is in the southeastern US.

I hated to give it up, but I still work outside as much as I can and that's a lot. The weather is relatively mild here. Now if it would just stop raining for a while. Of course, this summer I'll be wishing for rain.




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Re : Re: greenhouses --- Virginia
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Mar 20,2002,10:01 Top of Thread Archive
Virginia, might it be allergens from the plants that would hang thickly in the air with the high humidity of the greenhouse rather than the humidity itself? Just a thought.
Shirley



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Re : Re: greenhouses --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Virginia , Mar 20,2002,13:40 Top of Thread Archive
I didn't feel like an allergic reaction. It felt a lot like when I work outside on a hot humid day here in the summer.



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Re : greenhouses --- Virginia
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 20,2002,04:48 Top of Thread Archive
Don't worry Virginia, there will be some of us not working on the greenhouse - I can't because of an infection and my hands are full with cough drops and tissues, Evelyn can't because her back hurts and you won't be able to because of your eyes - maybe youcould just give orders, how does that sound?

June in Toronto (beb/meige)




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Re : Re: greenhouses --- June in Toronto
Posted by Virginia , Mar 20,2002,07:41 Top of Thread Archive
I'm good at giving orders - sounds good to me. I can help build it, I just can't work in it once it's finished.



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Re: greenhouses/Virginia

Re : Re: greenhouses --- June in Toronto
Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 21,2002,05:49 Top of Thread Archive
I'm going on all the botanical trips too. I think it is the allergens in the humidity also that might irritate you.
Kathy who is reading a very interesting book and just found out that pollen is plant sperm.



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Re:Virginia/Kathy botanical trips

Re : Re: greenhouses/Virginia --- Kathy in Atlanta
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Mar 21,2002,08:07 Top of Thread Archive
Virginia, I think that it is way past time for you to take Kathy on your botanical trips with you. You need to have some long talks about "pollen".

Mother Chook-I've failed in some way!




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Re : Re:Virginia/Kathy botanical trips --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Virginia , Mar 21,2002,08:44 Top of Thread Archive
I may just do that. She's right, you know. I once took a class in the sex life of the single plant. We get to teach it to fifth graders.

Virginia in AL - it's okay Mother Chook, we're consenting adults. I don't take anyone with me on garden trips unless they consent (except Carl, of course, but then he's a good sport about it).




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Re : greenhouses --- Virginia
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Mar 20,2002,16:40 Top of Thread Archive
That must have been a big disappointment for you, Virginia. I'm so sorry. Was it due to allergies?

Sally in North Idaho who understands allergies




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Re: DEEPRESSION

Re : Re: DEEPRESSION --- Delaine Inman
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 19,2002,13:03 Top of Thread Archive
Ok, I'm coming as well and I'll pick up Alan along the way - watch out Alan I'm a flying! I'll have to be exempt tho' from building any greenhouses, I'm sickly with a cold you know (sniff, sniff), so I think my lugguage will consist of cough candies, hot toddies and kleenex. I'll have to bring my own WHITE CHOCOLATE as well I guess as you others seem to like the dark kind. I'm sure Dee has a cosy armchair for me to cosy up in, maybe she can even lend me her light if I can tolerate it - while I watch you other busy beavers do your thing. See ya.

June in Toronto




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Re : DEEPRESSION --- Dee in OR
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 19,2002,05:02 Top of Thread Archive
I loved Tigger's comment under this post on the dystonia board:

"Even donkeys have their off days, its all a question of how good the carrots are."

I hope your carrots, Dee, are young and sweet!

June in Toronto (beb/meige)

--modified by June in Toronto at Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 05:03:49




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Re : DEEPRESSION --- Dee in OR
Posted by Dee in OR , Mar 19,2002,10:25 Top of Thread Archive
Thanks everybody,

I feel better. Ok, I will come to California, but only if I can stay there. I do miss CA so much. Christel is depressed too so we can cheer her up too.

Yes, June, I loved Tigger's post and the thing about the carrots.

I just finished sitting in front of my light. NO I have "light spots" in front of my eyes. This is supposed to work in 2-4 days. It changes your circadian rhythym and sleep cycle and inhibits the brain's production of melatonin, the sleep hormone. We shall see.

DeEYORE in OR




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Re : Re: DEEPRESSION --- Dee in OR
Posted by Shirley-Arkansas-USA , Mar 19,2002,10:41 Top of Thread Archive
Dee, the funny thing is that you aren't going to know if the lights helped you or if "going to California" for a DEEpression party was what worked. I guess that it doesn't matter as long as you feel better.
Sounds like Joann Humphrey needs to come to use your lights, too. I just hope that Christel doesn't get all "stressed" about holding this party at her place. I hope that she reads the bb before we all show up at her place with gooey chocolate and greenhouse construction material. All of us piling out of a boat in her front drive might make her eyes shut down (or open up). ;-)

Shirley in Arkansas-yes folks we are crazy




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Re : Re: DEEPRESSION --- Shirley-Arkansas-USA
Posted by Dee in OR , Mar 19,2002,12:08 Top of Thread Archive
I warned Christel that we were on our way. Forgot to mention the boat! Oh well, we will surprise her.

And Pippa, isn't there a poem or something by Ezra Pound about Pippa? Or maybe it is by someone else, but I know there is a poem about Pippa. So come on over to our side of the pond and enjoy the party.

DeEYORE in OR




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Re : Re: DEEPRESSION --- Dee in OR
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 19,2002,12:41 Top of Thread Archive
Sorry to put a serious note here - but can you describe the light svp? Do you wear it on a visor (as I've seen), look into it, or have it shining overhead? Curious.

June in Toronto




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Re: DEEPRESSION/Light?

Re : Re: DEEPRESSION/Light? --- June in Toronto
Posted by Dee in OR , Mar 19,2002,12:59 Top of Thread Archive
June,

It is a rather cumbersome, boxy thing that sits on my dining room table. I have to sit in front of it for 30 minutes a day, in the morning before 8am. It is at a 45 degree angle and I only need to glance directly at it occasionally. I can read or write or just zone out. I think I have attached a picture of it.

Dee in OR

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Re : Re: DEEPRESSION/Light? --- Dee in OR
Posted by pippa (Pippa,pippa), Mar 19,2002,14:52 Top of Thread Archive
Help! Last night I cried with that wonderful poem..... and tonight I am crying with laughter after reading this lot!! yes, we all have something else in common...we are all mad! My dog is very concerned as i don't usually fall about the floor laughing like this!

Anyway about this box thingy. I think it looks like the light that we have over here for S.A.D syndrome....ie Seasonally Affected Disorder. Because we get so little sunlight here in Scotland, and in Norway and other northern hemisphere countries north of here, there is a syndrome called this, and is it recognised by the sufferer being depressed and sleepy and generally lethargic. Some people are more susceptible than others. to combat it we have a box which look s like the one you have here and with special daylight bulbs as "they " in the medical profesion reckon it is to do with lack of certain parts of sunlight ( ultra violet light?) hitting the retina that causes this. but i really don't think i could look at it now. Can you? I remember it saying that i got a headache with it many years ago when i was in the same room as a boxlight. and yes the sufferers had to look at this light for as long as possible during the day, for as many days as possible during ourlong dark winters.
I know someone whose business failed because he was always in bed. his wife thought he was having an affair until she came home early one day and found him in bed...sleeping. After a few days of "catching him" she eventually realised that he had a real problem, and called in the medical experts.
bye for now...
Pippa with the Ark.




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Re : Re: DEEPRESSION/Light? --- pippa
Posted by Dee in OR , Mar 19,2002,15:05 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Pippa or is it Noah? Anyway, I have been wracking my brain trying to think of that poem and I thought of it "Pippa Passes" by Robert Browning. Beautiful poem.

And you are right about the light. It is used to treat S.A.D., whcih we also have here in the US. "Seasonal Affective Disorder", and I also have chronic depression, which is how I got dystonia - from all the medications I was given and some I shouldn't have been given. Baaaad doctor!! Well, here is "Pippa Passes". Is Pippa your real name?

Song, from Pippa Passes

The year's at the spring,
And day's at the morn;
Morning's at seven;
The hill-side's dew-pearled;
The lark's on the wing;
The snail's on the thorn;
God's in his Heaven -
All's right with the world!

-- Robert Browning

DeEYORE in OR




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Re : Re: DEEPRESSION/Light? --- Dee in OR
Posted by Pippa , Mar 19,2002,17:31 Top of Thread Archive
I didn't know that was from there! i must look up some more of his works. i wonder why hecalled it Pippa Passes though. Any ideas?



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Re : Re: DEEPRESSION/Light? --- Pippa
Posted by Sally - in - Idaho , Mar 19,2002,20:46 Top of Thread Archive
It's actually a very long poem and the sources I searched said that it does not seem to be anywhere on the Internet in its entirety.

Sally in North Idaho who still wonders about your name/nickname. Is it a common one over there?




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Re : Re: DEEPRESSION/Light? --- Sally - in - Idaho
Posted by Pippa , Mar 20,2002,12:57 Top of Thread Archive
Pippa is a nickname for Philippa, Sally. Thanks for the poem anyway.
Pippa frae bonny Scotland



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Re : Re: DEEPRESSION/Light? --- Pippa
Posted by Evelyn , Mar 21,2002,00:13 Top of Thread Archive
I think both names are pretty.
Evelyn



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Re : Re: DEEPRESSION/Light? --- Dee in OR
Posted by June in Toronto (June Floyd,June in Toronto), Mar 19,2002,16:52 Top of Thread Archive
Oh,now I see - thanks, Dee. Is that you in the photo or is it just an ad?

June in Toronto (beb/meige)




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Re : DEEPRESSION --- Dee in OR
Posted by Kathy in Atlanta (kathy,Kathy in Atlanta), Mar 21,2002,04:34 Top of Thread Archive
Dee, I just woke up after having bad dreams again and reading this is making me laugh.What good venting skills you have in your writing. I can picture Eyore doing his "whoa is me". Dreary weather gets me down also, especially when it is extended. After worrying about Delaine all night, the rain has come here to remind me of floods. It has been raining here all night. We need it. i hope the light works for you. Do you have to wear any special glasses while using it?



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Re: DEEPRESSION/Deelightful/Kathy in Atlanta

Re : Re: DEEPRESSION/Deelightful --- Kathy in Atlanta
Posted by Dee in OR , Mar 21,2002,11:11 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Kathy,

Thanks so much for your positve e-mail. No, I don't have to wear any special glasses when I use the light. I just have to have it at eye level and at a 45% angle. Only need to glance at it occasionally. Staring is NOT recommended. I'm sure the light wouyld work if I would use it consistently. But I have such a hard time getting out of bed before 8 in the morning and you have to use it before 8am. We actually had a nice Spring day yesterday. Now today it is very windy bit still dry. It won't last, said DeEYORE with a sigh! I guess I'll go now.

DeEYORE in OR




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