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Posted by: Jenny J ® 12/04/2006, 19:34:57 |
Hello again, everyone! I haven't posted for months, since I started to get dramatic relief from my BEB through excellent Botox injections from a local doctor. My vision is good enough, with shots every 12 weeks, to allow me to drive short distances on non-highway roads, read, and feel pretty normal when people look at me. The only ongoing trouble I have is that my eyes don't seem to close all the way when I sleep because of the Botox. They're so comfortable during my waking hours that I've actually have been able to wear special dry eye contact lenses (Oasis)for the first time in 15 years. But I often wake in the middle of the night with dry eye discomfort or have trouble seeing the first hour in the morning from dryness. I tried "Tranquil Eyes" foam googles, but they don't really help. Does anyone have any experience with moisture chamber googles for sleeping? Has anyone tried Saran Wrap or taping at night? Could you please tell me where you found the googles if you have them? I need to "catch up" on what's happening with you lately, and I hope to learn that others have been finding effective help too. Jenny |
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Posted by: judith k ® 12/04/2006, 21:36:21 |
Hi,
Have you used either GenTeal Gel or one of the petroleum-based ointments to 'seal' your eyes at night? I do that, and then wear a sleep mask (thin kind--like you might wear on a plane--though I know some people use thicker ones), and that seems to help a lot. I usually put a folded tissue on the mask as well. I tried saran wrap and taping (both with GenTeal), and prefer the mask. A number of people use saran wrap, but I became nervous that having SUCH a tight seal might help breed infections. Anyway, so far I'm comfortable with the GenTeal and the mask. Judith K |
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Posted by: Jenny J ® 12/05/2006, 07:36:44 |
Yes, I've tried Genteal Gel, Genteal PM Ointment, and just about everything else I could find. The ointment helps most, but my eyes still hurt after I've been sleeping. I didn't even try Saran Wrap, because I know it wouldn't stay on when I turn at night. |
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Posted by: June in Toronto ® 12/05/2006, 07:09:27 |
I had the moisture goggles demonstrated/shown to me by a technician here in Toronto. I decided against them as they were quite expensive (needed to be steeled-rimmed if I remember correctly) and I would need more than one pair (need sunglass pair). I also used saran wrap for quite a while and it did, indeed, breed infections. I now rely on Lacrilube to seal the eyes at night and a warm-mist humidifier in the bedroom to help as well (plus of course all the oils, daily moisturisers, etc. etc. etc.!). Good luck. June in Toronto |
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Posted by: Jenny J ® 12/05/2006, 07:40:17 |
Is Lacrilube available over-the-counter? I'll try it if so. You've got a good idea about the humidifier, because the oil heat in our house really drops the humidity in the cold weather. I wanted to look into getting moisture chamber googles, but I couldn't find them. Where can I look? Jenny |
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Posted by: June in Toronto ® 12/05/2006, 15:32:12 |
Lacrilube is available over the counter. One of our posters, Ann D. made her own recipe - note sure how it worked out (hey Ann!)? I was recommended to check out the moisture chamber goggles by my ophthalmologist - we have a dry-eye specialist here in Toronto. A technician there just took time to show me the type of frames they use and how it works. I didn't think it would work particularly well for me and was very expensive. Check with your eye doctor about them. Good luck. June in Toronto |
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Posted by: Jenny J ® 12/06/2006, 09:02:29 |
Thanks June. I will talk to my opthalmologist. If the google make me comfortable at night and in the morning, they will be worth some expense.
Jenny |
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Posted by: Kathleen ® 12/05/2006, 08:30:44 |
I use lacrilube at night and it definitely helps. Yes, it is available over the counter, but there are also other types of ointment based eye lubricants that are cheaper and might work as well. You might need to experiment a little. I use the lacrilube or other ointment in my eyes and then put plain vaseline around my eyes and on my lids. Then I use a regular sleep mask. The vaseline around the eyes seems to help keep the mask in place a little better. I do wash the eye mask frequently as it gets a little gunky from the vaseline and I suspect that could harbor bacteria if not washed periodically. The humidifier for your bedroom is definitely a help, as well. I also find that drinking plenty of water throughout the day helps keep my eyes hydrated better. |
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Posted by: judith k ® 12/05/2006, 12:08:08 |
The saran wrap will stay on if you have a mask over it. I used to cut out little just-larger-than-the-eyes pieces and put them on my eyes and then use the mask. But as I said, I was afraid of infections.
Lacrilube probably gives you a little better seal than GenTeal Gel. However, I still prefer the Gel because it works well enough, and it doesn't make your vision maddeningly blurry. My problem was that (when I tried the vaseline type stuff) I'd put it in my eyes, lie down, and then think of something and want to get up, or get restless, or get up in the middle of the night and want to read for awhile-- and it would be a big production to get the lacrilube off, because it's a heavy petroleum gel. GenTeal doesn't do that; I just like the feeling that if I suddenly pop up in after lying down, that I can see. But if that does't bother you, you might try lacrilube. Or try both, and see which you prefer. Judith K |
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Posted by: Jenny J ® 12/06/2006, 09:07:30 |
LOL...There've been too many "things" that I decided to do when I couldn't sleep which caused me to get up and walk into things because of sleep masks and ointments! The Tranquil Eyes mask has green eye coverings which made my daughter call me an alien. Jenny |
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Posted by: Jenny J ® 12/11/2006, 10:07:11 |
Thanks to all for the helpful ideas. I was able to get the Lacri-Lube and have found it the best night time ointment yet. (Although, the name sounds like something I should have added to my car's engine when I get the oil changed.) Jenny |
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Posted by: Jenny J ® 12/06/2006, 09:04:19 |
You've got a good point, about drinking plenty of water. I never seem to drink enough. I'll try the Vasoline too.
Jenny |
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Posted by: bluebird ® 12/05/2006, 16:34:39 |
I was told that I would need to go to a medical supply house for the moisture chamber. I think they meant the business where you get wheel chairs and other items for the public. I decied to try the Tranquileyes and they have okay for me. I still used Theratears Pm before I put on the Tranquileyes. Sometimes during the night, I turn the foam in the mask over to keep the moisture next to the eyes. I occasionally add drops during the night as well (GenTeal Drops or Refresh). I would also like to add that I just got the Tears Again Lipsome Eyelid Spray. CVS Pharmacy ordered it for me. It is a very small bottle and pricey. I will let everyone know how it works for me after I give it an adequate trial. I asked the optha about it and he said give it a try but he did not have any experience to relate. |
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Posted by: Jenny J ® 12/06/2006, 09:14:22 |
Thanks, Bluebird. My optha. gave me a natural tears spray, but it's little more than saline water. I'm curious if the spray you got helps. Like you, I flip the foam in the Tranquileyes to the wet side during the night. Jenny |
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Posted by: In Indiana ® 12/06/2006, 16:14:36 |
When my eyes were really dry at night, I used a pair of swimming goggles. It took me a few days to get used to them, and I tried out a few pairs before I found the ones that were most comfortable, but it did help. Thankfully, I haven't needed to use them for over a year now.
I also used to cut round pieces of Elastogel (it's actually a glycerin-based wound dressing) and placed them over my eyes, and secured them with 3M Medipore tape. When they stayed on, it was soothing. I also put a humidifier by the bed. Three suggestions that I haven't tried, but may help: Using the Medipore tape to gently tape your eyelids shut, using the Elastogel under a pair of nightshades that stay in place for you, or, I just searched "elastogel", and saw that they now make Elastogel sinus masks that cover the eyes. Hopefully, this is a temporary situation for you. I remember what a rude awakening it was when my eyes were so dry! Take care. |
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