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Posted by: Dawn in UK ® 03/30/2008, 09:55:55 |
Hi All I have been reading with interest the various postings about diets and thought that I would share this one with you. One of my work colleagues has multiple sclerosis (I am currently working in the dept where all the infirm get sent to wile out their working lives!) and she has decided to try a diet which is supposed to help with her condition. She has become a "fish eating vegan". It involves cutting out all saturated fat ie meat, dairy, margarine and only eating unsaturated fats. The science bit is that your cells are all constantly renewing themselves and the new cells are coated in fat. The fat can be either saturated or unsaturated but if saturated fat is available the body will use this first. However unsaturated fat is stronger and gives the cells more protection - so if no saturated fat is available the body has to use unsaturated fat and therefore the cells will be stronger. The down side to all this is that it takes 9 months to see an improvement as this is the length of time taken for the body to renew all its cells. She does also have to take some supplements which include calcium and linseed oil. Does anyone think that this could help our condition at all - or is there anyone who eats this sort of diet? I have to say that to cut out all of those foods I would have to be guaranteed results! Dawn |
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Posted by: lightwave ® 03/31/2008, 00:44:20 |
My opthalmologist recommends flaxseed oil (I think it is also called linseed oil). He says that it must be bought at a place that refrigerates it and you must refrigerate it once you get it home as it goes rancid fairly quickly. He recommends taking it with peanut butter as the peanut butter helps your body absorb the flaxseed oil better. Others recommend cod liver oil with peanut butter. The newer cod liver oils (Carlson's)are lemon flavored and actually taste good. |
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Posted by: Lee Ann ® 03/31/2008, 07:25:33 |
I remember at the conference last year this was brought up. I was going to try the flaxseed oil but never had the courage becuase I had bought it a while back and it was not exactly appealing. I never tried it in peanut butter though which had also been mentioned. Do you mind telling us how much flaxseed oil you take a day and in how much peanut butter (to disquise the taste) you use. And for those taking omega three fatty acids how much they take for it to benefit dry eye... Also, how long before you noticed an improvement...I'm sure you have to take it a while and be patient for it to help. thanks |
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Posted by: June in Toronto ® 03/31/2008, 06:29:45 |
I can't judge this way of eating you describe, but I do know that since taking nutritional supplements of Omega 3/fish/flax oils my dry eye condition has definitely improved. I've always used LOTS of eye drops/creams and gels over a 14-year period of having BEB/Meige's, but adding the oils has definitely helped a lot with dry eyes. I have for years cut out a lot of saturated fats and even sugar from my diet and feel better for it. I do eat very occasionally red meat, eggs and I use soy milk instead of dairy. None of this, except the oil supplements, have helped my BEB tho'. I'll be interested in hearing what others have to say. Thanks for posting/sharing - its always interesting. June in Toronto who was born in London UK, a long...time ago~! |
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Posted by: flipflops22 ® 03/31/2008, 07:38:48 |
Do the flax seed oil capsules work as well as the liquid. How much do you take to help with dry eyes? How much do you take of the fish oil and omega 3?
Thanks in advance for any info!!! |
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Posted by: Norm ® 03/31/2008, 08:06:14 |
Hello,
I take 2 gels caps of Omega 3-6-9 from Puritan Pride. It has all three together. I'm no there endorsing the company but it is nice to have all of it in one. It has helped both dry eye but I also have had the lower ter ducts cauterized and that helped the most. The added benifits of Omega is on the heart. They also have what I consider pretty good sales during the year. Many time buy one get one free. Hope this helps, Norm *S* the nutritinal information tag is :
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Posted by: June in Toronto ® 03/31/2008, 11:26:52 |
The TheraTears Nutrion supplement I take (3/day) each contains EPA 450 mg, DHA 300 mg of Omega-3 Fatty Acids, and, Flaxseedoil 1,000 mg. I believe I notice after approx. 6 months (winter months) that they were helping with dry eyes. June in Toronto |
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Posted by: Lee Ann ® 03/31/2008, 11:40:46 |
Hi all I remember at the conference last year one of the doctors saying that flax seed oil was more effective than the capsales. I just can't remember how much to take daily. I also remember they said mixing it with peanut butter did help with the nasty taste...Anyone at the conference last year remember how much to take daily???? Thanks Lee |
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Posted by: June in Toronto ® 04/01/2008, 05:39:44 |
I wasn't at the conference but I made note (possible from a conference attendee poster) of 1Tablespoon of flaxseed oil in peanut butter. June in Toronto |
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Posted by: Lee Ann ® 04/01/2008, 05:52:58 |
Hi June, Thanks for your reply Lee |
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Posted by: flipflops22 ® 04/01/2008, 07:08:45 |
Thanks for the info everyone!! I will try the flaxseed oil and I like peanut butter...so that helps!!!!
You're all very helpful!! |
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Posted by: Debbie ® 04/01/2008, 15:33:23 |
I have tried both TheraTears and Carlson's Moistur-Eyes. I found out about them here on the BEB BB a few years ago. Then a year or so ago I found out about Biotears (also on the BEB BB.) I have been taking them for awhile now (capsules which are specifically for dry eye) and for me, at least, they work the best. Again, I heard about them from a fellow blephro here on the BB. You can try googling Biotears to see what they contain. Same for Moistur-Eyes, which is also an excellent product, but Biotears seems to help my dry eyes more. Fish oil is supposed to be more effective than flaxseed oil, from what I've heard, but I take capsules. Perhaps taking the oil in liquid form is more effective (apparently so, from what I have just read in this thread.) Here's to moister eyes for all! Debbie Modified by Debbie at Tue, Apr 01, 2008, 15:34:54 |
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Posted by: In Indiana ® 04/03/2008, 03:29:54 |
I've also tried Theratears and other products containing fish oil and flax seed oil. I, too, have found Biotears to be the best. I took 4 capsules a day as directed for around 6 months, but for the past year, I've taken 2 a day with the same results. I can go a few days without it, but then I start noticing that my eyes feel dry. When I take it, I don't ever need eye drops. |
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Posted by: Debbie ® 04/02/2008, 13:35:51 |
It makes sense that the flaxseed oil would be more effective than the Omega-3 capsules I take for my dry-eye syndrome. That being said, I have tried the flaxseed oil on salads and such and I just don't like the taste of it, hence, I prefer the Omega-3 capsules (Biotears in particular) as per my previous post. Good luck, Dawn! Debbie |
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Posted by: flipflops22 ® 04/02/2008, 15:14:35 |
Just ordered a bottle of Biotears today!! Can't wait to get them and try them!!
How long do they take to work if they are going to? Do you wait months?...they're not real cheap especially paying $10 for shipping and handling!! Any side effects from these? Anybody? |
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Posted by: Debbie ® 04/02/2008, 15:44:06 |
Biotears are not cheap if you buy an an individual bottle, but now that I know they work for me, I buy them on autoship and get a sizeable reduction in price (I buy 6 bottles at a time.) However, first see if you like them. I feel that they are worth the money because I do feel a difference. I was taking Restasis prescription eye drops (also expensive) and they didn't do a thing for me, so I gave up. It does take awhile for the full effect of Biotears to kick in, so don't expect miracles immediately! I'd say that you'll notice the difference after a month or perhaps two. I have never had any side effects. They are specially formulated for dry eyes, and in my humble opinion, they work better than other products. As I mentioned before, I found out about Biotears right here on the BEB BB from somebody else who recommended them. However, what works for one might not for another. It's certainly worth a try, though! Some people prefer Carlson's Moistur-Eyes, which is also a good product, but I like Biotears better. It's just a personal preference--I am not a salesperson! :-) Let us know how you like them. Debbie Modified by Debbie at Wed, Apr 02, 2008, 15:45:13 |
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Posted by: flipflops22 ® 04/02/2008, 19:05:39 |
Thanks for the info Debbie!! My main concern was whether or not they bothered your stomach. I see that you are supposed to take two with breakfast and two with dinner. Didn't know if you had to take with food or not! My stomach has a problem with some pills. But, I will definitely give them a try!! Can't wait until they get here!!!! |
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Posted by: Debbie ® 04/02/2008, 19:57:45 |
Hey, Flip Flops, I always take the Biotears capsules with meals, i.e. on a full stomach--either breakfast and dinner or lunch and dinner. I have never had stomach problems with Biotears, but I always take them with food, so I wouldn't suggest taking them on an empty stomach. Hope you like them! :-) Debbie Modified by Debbie at Wed, Apr 02, 2008, 20:00:06 |
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Posted by: In Indiana ® 04/03/2008, 03:39:25 |
It's been a while since I started taking them, but it wasn't an "overnight" improvement. Gradually, I just noticed that I didn't need drops as often, until I realized that I wasn't using them at all. It was probably over a course of 3 months.
There weren't any bad side effects, but a few good ones. My cholesterol has improved, my skin isn't as dry, and I also notice that when I take them with cereal in the morning, I don't get hungry nearly as quickly! Now I probably sound like I work for the company, and I don't, but I have been impressed with the product. |
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Posted by: flipflops22 ® 04/03/2008, 14:47:36 |
Thanks for your response!! I am supposed to get my BioTears tomorrow!!! I am excited about trying them!!! I will let you know how it goes!!
If I order more, I will order more than one bottle since I have to pay the shipping and handling anyways!!!LOL!! Thanks again for the info!! You should work for them...make a littl extra money!! You have me sold!! LOL!! I know...everyone is different!! But, doesn't hurt to be excited about trying something that might help...right? |
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Posted by: Debbie ® 04/03/2008, 17:45:56 |
Now that I think about it, Indiana, you're right....I used to use eye drops frequently, and now I rarely do. Also, my eyes used to feel "gritty", almost like I had a layer of sandpaper inside my lids, and now they don't feel like that. They are still on the dry side, but nothing like before. In addition, I too have noticed an improvement in my skin. I used to use night cream and day cream, and now my skin is moister and I don't use any cream at all! I haven't checked my cholesterol recently, but I hope that mine went down too! Note to Judy, our moderator: we are not selling or endorsing this product. We have both just had good results with it. Again, don't expect immediate results, FF....it will take awhile, but it's worth the wait! Debbie |
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